AC Feb 20th course

flyboy1234 · Post by **flyboy1234** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:45 pm

Hi all, just wondering what is being offered equip. wise for those in the 20th course.

F-16 · Post by **F-16** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:44 pm

you don't find out what's offered until in the course... at least that's what I've been told.
cheers...

China will Fall · Post by **China will Fall** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:09 pm

Hey guys... new to the forum. flyboy1234 just wondering when you did your interview to get called for the Feb 20 AC course? Was it last year or in Jan sometime... I did mine in Jan and I'am still waiting for a call, It's been over 3 weeks and no PFO letter so I guess thats a good sign... Thanks

aeroboy · Post by **aeroboy** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:18 pm

I did my interview in Jan and havent heard anything either ... its almost been 3 weeks .. but i was told in the interview ...not to expect a call for a month and then possibly not a course for maybe upto a month following a call... guess they have a bit of a pool right now...

Maxxed out · Post by **Maxxed out** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:31 am

I interviewed Mid Dec, got calledjust after New Year's and did Sim and Medical Jan 23, got called the next week for GS on the 20th.

I don't think they have a pool.

Gurundu the Rat · Post by **Gurundu the Rat** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:16 am

Just to be clear, I think this is about Mainline and not Jazz which may have a course starting the same date.

Big M.A.C. · Post by **Big M.A.C.** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:03 pm

How did you guys get notified for the interview? New to the forum, living in the states and dying to get back to Canada... 3400tt, 1950Pic, 1100JetSic etc.. Does this rank?

Any info might help... I am trying to decide if I should accept an interview from Jazz or wait for the AC call

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:23 pm

Apply and see what happens. I dont see why you wouldn't get a call.

Maxxed out · Post by **Maxxed out** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:22 pm

Guess I should read more carefully...

GPS · Post by **GPS** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:46 pm

hay what are my chances with 1700 hours multi ifr

ziggy · Post by **ziggy** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:49 pm

You have a 36% chance of getting on with 1700 hours. But i'm only 75% sure though.

GPS · Post by **GPS** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:18 pm

THANKS ZIGGY.I FEEL BETTER NOW

GPS · Post by **GPS** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:20 pm

thanks ziggy ,i feel much better now

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:32 am

LMAO!
Ziggy...I'm still laughing 40-80% of the time after reading your post

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mduffy · Post by **mduffy** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:58 pm

I wouldn't be surpirsed if most of that class is assigned to the A320. I wouldn't begin to speculate on how the union will deal with this.

YULdude · Post by **YULdude** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:09 pm

mduffy,

They WON"T be on the 320 unless ACPA agrees to it, which they won't at the present time, thanks in part to more company shinanigans (sp?) wrt 747 wet-leases... They CANNOT put new hires on the 320, it's black and white in the contract (for once)!

Long Keel · Post by **Long Keel** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:26 pm

but...

They can be hired, start training on the EMJ, and if a new equipment bid comes out, switch machines before they even get to the sim.

Timing is everything.

MisterNo · Post by **MisterNo** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:22 pm

Technically yes, if their seniority will hold it. My guess is there are more than a few people who are already on the Embraer itching to get out of the pay group.

neophyte · Post by **neophyte** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:06 pm

"If anyone says Shananigan's one more time I am gonna..."

"Hey Farve, what is the name of that Irish bar, across town?"

"Shananigan's, I love that place"

Sorry fellow aviators, I had but no choice, Super Troopers is in my blood.

Disco Stu · Post by **Disco Stu** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:42 pm

MisterNo wrote:Technically yes, if their seniority will hold it. My guess is there are more than a few people who are already on the Embraer itching to get out of the pay group.

Even if they get off the Embraer now, they would still be on status pay for 2 years.

Makes more sense to stay on the ERJ for the first 2 years with some seniority and hold a block, than to go on the 320 to be on reserve.

YULdude · Post by **YULdude** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:51 pm

Disco Stu,

Exactly man! Don't forget they will get 2 good years of vacation as well, if they stay on the EMB. It serves no good purpose for a new hire to bid the 320 in the 1st 2 years... Unless they have a real hard on to fly it (it is a nice a/c to fly!).

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:43 pm

We have F/O's who have been on the Embraer for less than 6 months and are starting their 320 courses now.

I fail to see how the company thinks they are saving money with this pay group. ACPA will not allow direct entry 320 positions as long as the PG remains in its' present state.

When you consider the amount of money it takes to train a new pilot, taking into account lost productivety while he is in groundschool and sitting at home awaiting simulator, then Line Indoc and displacements....etc. The guys who are now on course for the 320, have less than 100 hours on the Embraer and will have been in "school" for 8 months out of the last 12.

Now there is some sound economics for ya.

Hadji Ramjet · Post by **Hadji Ramjet** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:43 am

So what would you want to ask from ACE in exchange for letting them put new hires on the 320? Sounds like 320 crews are working a bit of an onerous schedule, maybe due in part to being undermanned because of this stipulation.

2low · Post by **2low** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:23 am

Ya but the Emb and the 320 suck.... so now what.

2low · Post by **2low** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:26 am

By the way. Jazz will have every thing from the 320 down in 2009.

And still fly them for dash 8 wages. Biotch!!!!