For what it's worth, like most i'm trying to get the experience it takes to get a chance at mainline. Almost 2800 hours with 2000 multi pic but just signing in for capt on a 200 with a contract.
There are good oportunuties of getting right seats in mediums like 1900s or J31s out there with the pain of moving the wife and kid....
For better sleep and peace of mind, what's the best thing to do to get a call faster or to get better chances at big red. I do have a 4 y degree and I speak french.
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200 captain is a good spot I think. But all other things being equal perhaps seeking out a company that has a history of losing pilots to AC would be something to consider. It is definitely an intangible, but serves to increase your professional "network" while putting a known entity on your resume. Where you are right now (2800 hrs, degree, french, lots of MPIC) you are by most measures right in the ballpark already. Now you just need contacts.....not that I'm an expert as I'm basically in the same spot, just my opinion.
From what I saw in my ground school class there is no difference between some time on a 200 and a 1900 or Jetstream. We had people straight from King Airs on course. Unless you have the opportunity for jet time, upgrading to another turboprop doesnt carry much weight (no pun intended). Your degree will be more impressive than another turboprop type. IMO.
Look for a job in a scheduled operation. Having schedule experience seems to impress. Georgian, CMA, etc. seem to move guys here faster than directly from a company that is pure corporate/charter, + you will put more time in your book in the same time frame.
You learn more from your mistakes than your successes. F**k enough things up and you'll die a genius.
it's all about connections at this point. go to a company that has been loseing to lots of AC. CMA, GGn seem to be pretty good spots to increase your chances. Also Jazz will be a major player in the near future...if the rumors are true that is.
The feet you step on today might be attached to the ass you're kissing tomorrow.
Chase lifestyle not metal.
Chase lifestyle not metal.
Thanks for the quality replies. I think most of the individuals hired that came from King-Airs had very good references or could be exceptions. Humbly speaking, I believe most looked at for interviews had either heavy jet experience from cargo, executive jet, or regional B1900 time. All being pretty tough to crack.
That's where the line is hard to see. They changed the experience table to two categories which are heavy and light (12500lbs and -). The dilemma there stands.
That's where the line is hard to see. They changed the experience table to two categories which are heavy and light (12500lbs and -). The dilemma there stands.
Is that your mom?
DDIGLER,
I Would recommend staying put if you are building Turbine PIC rather quickly.I would make a move to get JET time.Eventhough we have seen GGN and CMA and guys straight from King Air's contary to what you might have benld to believe ,they are the eception.Most have some type of jet time.You already seem pretty good on paper so I would say dont make sideways moves (I.E other turboprops) just try to get jet time if it is possible.
You never know,what you have already may get you in (it's happened recently) but getting jet time will help for sure.
P.S I work for AC and I didn't have any contacts here,neither did any of the guys on my course so hold off on adopting a new dad as TRAF recommends.
I Would recommend staying put if you are building Turbine PIC rather quickly.I would make a move to get JET time.Eventhough we have seen GGN and CMA and guys straight from King Air's contary to what you might have benld to believe ,they are the eception.Most have some type of jet time.You already seem pretty good on paper so I would say dont make sideways moves (I.E other turboprops) just try to get jet time if it is possible.
You never know,what you have already may get you in (it's happened recently) but getting jet time will help for sure.
P.S I work for AC and I didn't have any contacts here,neither did any of the guys on my course so hold off on adopting a new dad as TRAF recommends.
Ive got 3800hrs, about 2000 turbine, Be100 time, university degree, 3 languages, military instruction experience BUT no jet nor EFIS. And no call from mainline either. JAZZ has called (for an interview) and hired almost all my coworkers... I will be more than happy to go to Jazz as all my buddies are loving it and it means I can set my pager on fire just before catapulting it a mile high into the freezing air to have it land into a flaming pile of cowsh*t.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Keep flying till the noise stops.
It has been said before but why are there so many pilots that are so quick to want to switch from company to company. I know I know AC dreams but no one is guaranteed the call, why not enjoy what you are doing for the moment. I can see if your company is so terrible to want to move to another before commiting but if you have decent working conditions and are guaranteed a capt. job why so reluctant to sit for a while? It seems you haven't even conquered one airplane before you are wanting to rush off for another f/o job. With all the me me me attitudes no wonder companies want pilots to pay up front or sign contracts. With a "I deserve better than this" attitude, if I were them, I wouldn't offer someone like you the position. Why not leave it open for someone who will enjoy it...
Good evening Brew,
I believe the original poster said that he was looking for ways to increase his chances at getting an airline job. I believe he said that also said something about having a wife and kid. Seems reasonable to me that he'd want to support them as best he could.
A little harsh, no? Maybe you oughta throttle her back there a little. It's true that it's important to enjoy the ride but it's also okay to be looking for something better down the road.
By the way diggler, sounds like you're doing alright. Keep at it and I wouldn't recommend chasing airplanes or companies right now. Play with your kid, kiss your wife goodnight and enjoy your King Air. They're a ton of fun. When someone calls, be ready.
Just my two cents....
My two cents....
I believe the original poster said that he was looking for ways to increase his chances at getting an airline job. I believe he said that also said something about having a wife and kid. Seems reasonable to me that he'd want to support them as best he could.
...if I were them, I wouldn't offer someone like you the position.
A little harsh, no? Maybe you oughta throttle her back there a little. It's true that it's important to enjoy the ride but it's also okay to be looking for something better down the road.
By the way diggler, sounds like you're doing alright. Keep at it and I wouldn't recommend chasing airplanes or companies right now. Play with your kid, kiss your wife goodnight and enjoy your King Air. They're a ton of fun. When someone calls, be ready.
Just my two cents....
My two cents....
I used to believe, it was good to wait and enjoy your stay, each step of the way. I don't see that anymore. The sooner you get on with the airline you want, the better your life in the long run. Seniority is everything. I know people who got hired at Jazz within a couple months of each other. One got kept their job during the layoffs, the other was unemployed for 4 years. Others have been captains for the last four years, the others, FO's. It makes a huge differnence in life.
