GETTING AN EDUCATION

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MurtsAir wrote: Not wanting to be a total smartass I said I thought the Mackenzie or the St Lawrence were larger I could be wrong though. Knowing full well im right. Then he states "im a geography major want to bet" So I went big and said a months wage wich wasnt all that much because he payed 50 bucks a day. He backed down to a case of beer. And Im still waiting for that case of beer today. Shows you the quality of education some people get from a book. I knew about the Mackenzie and of course the St lawrence not only from elementary school but from flying around those areas and getting my own "Education."
I was talking to this guy once who thought that Paul Martin is a form of Ice Cream... shows you the quality of education that some people get from not reading books.

How about you try and come up with examples of people that have degrees or higher levels of education being stupid and I'll try and come up with examples of people without degrees being stupid. We'll see who can come up with more??

The guy was a Geography Major... which means that he probably hasn't received any degree or masters or doctrate. He's an idiot for using that as an argument but if you were to then go toe to toe with him regarding a variety of knowledge questions regarding Geography, my bet is that you'd lose that case of beer.

But he must be a moron cause he has an education, right CYYZ and SHit?
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Id actually welcome that challenge with him or you anytime, So get out your notebook son im going to take you to school. The guy through up the Im a geography thing as a "how dare you question me I have a peice of paper that says im smart" wich was obviously not the case. If you have read previous post of mine on this subject you would relize that im all for education, I would agree with you that take a cross section of people with and without higher education you would find the educated people will score higher than those without. But the point is you have to take people as they come someone who holds up a peice of paper and proclaims im better than you because I took the time to jump throught these hoops in between the frat house keggers wich most of the "valuable" knowledge has probably been lost to achieving the goal of a degree not useing the gained knowledge, Obviously this type of person isnt a secure individual. It's kinda like the difference between writing a check and having cash. The check says your good for the money, cash says I just proved im good for it and in the end they both get the job done. Back to the original question on this post of Why do some companies/people look down on those with education. My thoughts as to why are: they may feel that these people have spent all there time in the classroom and no time in the "real world". Most people learn more from doing than reading about things. Some could be envy wich brings me back that person isnt secure with themsleves. And bottom line is you have to look at people as individuals. I guess what I was trying to say with my comment about the I'm a geography major guy is he's not secure in his knowledge hence he didnt go for the months wage after all.
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2bornot2b wrote:cyyz wrote:
I'm not a liberal, if I see a lame horse I wouldn't hesitate to euthanize.
...so what are you waiting for. Do us all the favour.
Sh8t, you are daft.. I can't. Suicide is illegal, as is assisted suicide, hence the long winded commentary on our "grand" "first-world" health care system.... But it's good you managed to accept all my comments, that our health care and government are pathetic, and the only comment you could rebut was the one above...

*claps*
smartass wrote:what do you call that thing attatched to the bottom of my arm? Hand.. right
Wrong,

"technically the part of the superior limb between the shoulder and the elbow " -dictionary.com

Guess I wouldn't have you operate on me after all.

If you want a handle that's "smartass" atleast be a 'good' smart ass.. Carrying on,
furious at the level of education provided to those receiving their medical papers and makes every attempt to critisize them.
No, not all of them. And I only use Doctors in my examples because they're supposed to be the upper echelon of educated people, it's relative to this discussion. I've used my Milton, Martin and Miller CEO/PM/Mayor comments too, but you weren't satisfied with those examples. So I state doctors, because when they screw up it can be easily compared and you can't use the "it's not my field" excuse.
He feels that if a person who flunks Bi 11 can come up with a better diagnosis than a docter, than all doctors must be stupid.
Yes, I'm bashing doctors. :roll: I'm bashing the concept of "education".
he is now willing to have his local mechanic operate
Who says the local mechanic can't be a doctor or own a copy of "Home Remedies?" I guess you prefer to be safe and call 911 for every little bump and bruise you recieve, you wouldn't want to self diagnose yourself for anything. I mean you're obviously not qualified to do that.

I hope you don't fly planes either because the only people that can do that are those with Degrees from reputable schools like UofT.
Does your accountant do your shopping for you, I mean those numbers they must get to your head.
Does an English Teacher read your favorite magazines to you? An Engineer come down to your house to turn on your lights?
I'm surprised you're using the computer do you hold an IT degree? If you don't I don't think with your philosophy you should be touching that computer, you're just not qualified....
Two: Shitdisturber
An attack on another user on the board, you know who else uses "tarnish your opponent" tactics, politicians, but they only use it when they can't tackle the issue at hand..
if you were to then go toe to toe with him regarding a variety of knowledge questions regarding Geography, my bet is that you'd lose that case of beer.
Toe to Toe? We'll make this a global debate, lets bring in a Japanese grade 4 against a Canadian grade 4. You'll see who'll win.

In theory and ideally if 'education' meant something they'd be equal. But in reality my money and a good majority of people would wager on the Japanese kid.

I admire the fact you won't back down from this debate, that's good. But clearly the majority of members on this board admit or tend to believe.

A. Education of today is lacking.

B.ut we all agree, unfortunatly, today one needs that paper to get ahead.

C.oincidently many of those with an "education" are arrogant.
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smartass wrote:How about we wrap this thread up with explanations as to the stupidity of two posters found within:

One: CYYZ

Please hold the critisism. Poor CYYZ flunked out of Bi 11 and since then learned how to adhere a bandaid to his lower... um... what do you call that thing attatched to the bottom of my arm? Hand.. right... hand. Now the doctor told him that the scratch would heal on his own but CYYZ took it upon himself to use a bandaid, which he felt was the neccessary remedy. It turned out that his hand did heal and soon the scratch dissappeared. Ever since CYYZ has been furious at the level of education provided to those receiving their medical papers and makes every attempt to critisize them. He feels that if a person who flunks Bi 11 can come up with a better diagnosis than a docter, than all doctors must be stupid. He is now willing to have his local mechanic operate in order to remove that large swelling that has been increasing pressure on his pint sized melon.

Two: Shitdisturber

Well poor shit is a self proclaimed genious. Unfortunately every problem that he has attempted to correct has resulted in failure. Instead of considering that perhaps he should seek help in overcoming this intelligence deficiency he feels that it would be more effective to try to critisize the people who are telling him that he is wrong. He's so hell bent on proving his intelligence that he's taken the following position.

Stat's labeling educated vs. uneducated are skewed because the uneducated could be educated through means other than traditional education. Thus educated people can't be compared with uneducated people as we can not derive what level of education has been achieved through various channels of education whether that education be Classroom education or Shop education but notwithstanding Self education and whether the payment is made to a Certified educationalist or the unlicenced educationalist.

Hence what is education? What am I talking about? Did anyone see some common sense lying around near the bar, I seemed to have misplaced mine?

Hopefully the above explanations will help the users of AvCanda in understanding the backgrounds involved in the outrageous posts made by these two in this forum. I know I was beginning to think that the world might indeed be flat for a moment there.
Common sense? You can't misplace what you never had, I hate to break it to you. Throughout this thread; you have backtracked and contradicted yourself, then when all else fails resorted to personal attacks. First against Shiny; now it's YYZ and myself. Whatever it was that you took at university it certainly wasn't logic. We already knew it wasn't english.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that you haven't attended university either; you're most likely just a pimply faced sixteen year old with a chip on your shoulder relying on the internet to get rid of all the pent up frustration caused by your inability to see a woman naked other than when the shop keeper at 7-11 isn't looking at you lurking around the magazine rack.

For the record genius, note that i've spelled it correctly something which escapes your much vaunted intellect.
I wouldn't want any criticism of my spelling so i've made sure to use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation throughout. I've even spelled those all important words, genius and criticism correctly; but I digress.

In any event, i've become rather bored with trying to explain to people like ass; excuse me smartass, that having a piece of paper on the wall doesn't make them better pilots or people. I thought the question of why some university grads were treated like pariahs at some organizations had been adequately answered many times over by many people; unfortunately some individuals are apparently incapable of absorbing the message. Simply put, attitude!

That being said ass, feel free to continue your attacks as I won't be seeing them. This thread in general and you specifically have become drivel I won't allow myself to waste anymore time reading. A word of advice though; use smaller words where you're more confident of the spelling, might I suggest single syllable words? I wouldn't want you to appear more foolish than you do already.
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http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wnor/less ... orearm.htm
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wnor/less ... ofhand.htm
For those that are anotomically challenged I thought that I would post this as I can't make sense of what you are saying. Which one of you guys put the hand in the middle between your shoulder and your elbow????? I guess if you put one on the distal end too you would make one hell of a goalie. Anyhow, I digress, get an education....one way or the other :wink:
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You posted the wrong link too..

"Summary of Items in Axilla Muscles of Anterior arm"

From your first link. Notice the "arm" link.


http://mywebpages.comcast.net/wnor/less ... antarm.htm

Notice it goes from your shoulder to your elbow...

Just like dictionary.com said it would,
n 1: technically the part of the superior limb between the shoulder and the elbow but commonly used to refer to the whole superior limb (by those who are ignorant)
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??????????????????
Whatever, get an education, then you will be smart enough not to get into a war of wits with an unarmed man. (Clever use of words, no :wink: )
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/ ... 58224.html
She is believed to be the only woman known to have performed a successful Caesarean-section on herself.
Not that I recommend this idea to others, but obviously untrained, uneducated.

Success... No 10 years of schooling before she could operate. Funny.. Strange.. Even a bit "impossible."
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Not that desperation and poverty had anything to do with her decision :?:
It stated that as far as they knew she was the only one to successfully perform this on herself which begs the question, how many unsuccessful incidents have their been.
It's sad to know that their are so many countries out there where universal health care does not exist. This act was unbeleivably brave and unfortunately neccessary.
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Not that desperation and poverty had anything to do with her decision
Yes, obviously, another extreme example that I posted..

Do you want me to post the local city workers planting trees? Obviously they don't need a BSc in botany to accomplish that task, they're managing just fine.

Do you want a world where

someone at a car accident will not perform CPR or First aid because they don't have a certificate?

Education is great and dandy, it'll get your name to the top of the list, but because someone spends 10 years in a faculty doesn't mean they're any smarter or will be of any more use to society.

You and I can't practice law because we haven't passed the bar? But do you honestly think we wouldn't be able to work the jury to get a verdict in our favour?
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... _promotion
Officials had predicted as many as 15,000 student would be kept in third grade for another year as part of Mayor Michael Bloomberg's new policy to end "social promotion."
Pray that doesn't catch on, you might see a dramatic decrease in "graduates."
Bloomberg, a billionaire Republican businessman elected in 2001, has staked his re-election in 2005 on resuscitating the moribund school system, which serves 1.1 million pupils
It always feels good to be vindicated.
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