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horizon · Post by **horizon** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:34 pm

I was wondering if someone could tell me what the conditions are like with Can Jet, salary, benefits, days off, ... and also can you be based out of Montreal? Thank you

speed210 · Post by **speed210** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:55 pm

Hey Horizon,

I will try and answer your questions. The working conditions at CJ
are not bad. Beneifits, start at date of hire i.e medical, passes etc...
Some airlines make you wait for six months. You're scheduled with
1-4 day pairings plus per-diems. We average 65-80 flying hrs per month
with 13 to 14 day's off per month. The pilot base is out of Halifax N.S, as far as living out of Montreal, I am not sure? You would need a crash pad in Halifax for work. If you want to live in Montreal during your day's off, that's up to you. The Canjet staff are a good bunch to work with, I have no regrets !! I hope this helps you.

Best of luck

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:20 pm

speed210 wrote:Hey Horizon,
The working conditions at CJ are not bad. I have no regrets !!

I guess you missed the 7 page "Canjet Union" thread???? Or are you a minority(who likes and doesn't whine) there?

No peanuts, no upgrades for F/O's. Under paid Capts... LoL.. Their list goes on....

speed210 · Post by **speed210** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:45 pm

Just trying to help out a fellow aviator!!

studmuffin · Post by **studmuffin** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:26 pm

Simple facts....

There is a training contract ( unfortunately )

Most upgrades come from the F/O's ( 5 DE's I think )

Underpaid..yes, but in the last 36 months two $5000.00 pay increases
( we'll have to see if ALPA can do that in 36 months )

13 days off

decent overtime deal

good equipment

working conditions have improved a lot since last year

Best deal in the Maritimes!!

Oh yeah...don't make a career decision based on free peanuts!!!!!!!

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:37 pm

I think it is safe to say that the only reason those raises came through was to fend off a minor exodus and appease those left behind.

studmuffin · Post by **studmuffin** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:30 am

Isn't that what all pay raises are for?

green bastard · Post by **green bastard** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:48 am

Studmuffin must be one of the 7% not for ALPA. Nice pink colored world that you live in. ALPA will keep all those things, improve some other things and help create stability at Canjet. If your happy now then you will only get happier with an ALPA contract.

studmuffin · Post by **studmuffin** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:44 am

Simple facts.....

I signed an ALPA card before most other pilots here...

My world isn't pink coloured...it's realistic coloured...

It's not about what ALPA will keep, ( we won't lose anything ), it's about can ALPA get a contract with a $10000 raise over 3 years....

I think ALPA may help us attract pilots...( I hope )

I'm not against ALPA, it's just I've heard everything out on the line from " we have to match WestJet " to " we have to have a contract in 6 months or less "....and those things are not going to happen.

EastCoaster · Post by **EastCoaster** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:34 am

It's good to see some of you encouraging another pilot to head this way. The peanuts issue seems to have blown over, and the pilots I've been speaking to are encouraged at the small changes that have been coming each day. I hear that this months schedules are decent and with the winter charters coming to an end, there should be some more weekends off coming. The new YYZ-YYT-YYZ direct flights start this week which will be good for business. I am well aware that not all of the problems are gone, but I think it's safe to say that everyone has settled down and people are getting on with business. With some luck, there will be more pilots sending resumes and the schedule will get even better.

pika · Post by **pika** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:40 pm

Did AC drop 125 flight on top of their schedule?

horizon · Post by **horizon** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:36 pm

thank you for your replies but I would like to know if you can be based out of Montreal or is that out of the question?

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:44 pm

speed210 wrote:Hey Horizon,

I will try and answer your questions. The working conditions at CJ
are not bad. Beneifits, start at date of hire i.e medical, passes etc...
Some airlines make you wait for six months. You're scheduled with
1-4 day pairings plus per-diems. We average 65-80 flying hrs per month
with 13 to 14 day's off per month. The pilot base is out of Halifax N.S, as far as living out of Montreal, I am not sure? You would need a crash pad in Halifax for work. If you want to live in Montreal during your day's off, that's up to you. The Canjet staff are a good bunch to work with, I have no regrets !! I hope this helps you.

Best of luck

studmuffin · Post by **studmuffin** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:56 pm

Sorry, you cannot be based in YUL. The only base is YHZ. If there ever were another base, my guess is YYZ, based on the amount of flying we do out of there.

Good luck in what ever decision you make.

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:08 pm

others have tried the commuting gig out YYT and YUL and didn't work out. Commuting is pain anyway.

marquisman · Post by **marquisman** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:09 am

Cyyz wrote no upgrades for fo's. Where do you get your info. I upgraded in just a little over a year. Not a bad place to work, great bunch of employees.

flyin' fish · Post by **flyin' fish** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:42 am

CYYZ seems to poke his nose in where it doesn't belong. Or there's no Star Trek conventions going on and he's really bored.
Just because there's a couple of complaints on this forum doesn't necessarily paint an accurate picture of how things are here. No peanuts, fine, anything on that trolly can't be good for you. BTW they've halted all DE hiring and more people are getting a shot at the left seat, so if you didn't get a call it means you're not ready!
Bitchin on this site is not going to help the negotiations that are coming up.

WJ700 · Post by **WJ700** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:07 pm

Having worked in ALPA exec positions I can tell you that ALPA 'self governs'. IE, you set up, elect, and run your house the way YOU want. It's up to the CanJet pilots and CanJet managers to get the relationship going in the right direction. Once you elect your MEC/LEC, they will go to a Leadership course in Herndon Virginia. There you take courses on communication, what to say, what not to say. It's all about the pitch... "our pilots need more time with their family's" rather than "We WANT 16 GDO's or we're going on strike".

ALPA has a lot of benefits IF run properly and with the right attitude in mind. Just take very seriously who you choose to have represent you; and encourage the right person to run if they are not thinking about it. There are many examples in Canada where the WRONG person gets elected and it's their mood when relaying the written word of current events and that can influence the enitre morale of your company.

I'm sure it won't be long before a lot of the issues at CanJet clean up, it will just seem like an eternity. In the mean time... we'll keep taking your pilots, they're great people

nofoodforyou · Post by **nofoodforyou** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:45 pm

hello CJetters,

I am trying to find out more info on their interview process....like any technical, or written test or sim eval....

Any info from somebody that went through it recently would be grealty appreciated...either here or PM....

Thanks
Cheers,

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:43 am

flyin' fish wrote:CYYZ seems to poke his nose in where it doesn't belong. Or there's no Star Trek conventions going on and he's really bored.
Just because there's a couple of complaints on this forum doesn't necessarily paint an accurate picture of how things are here. No peanuts, fine, anything on that trolly can't be good for you. BTW they've halted all DE hiring and more people are getting a shot at the left seat, so if you didn't get a call it means you're not ready!
Bitchin on this site is not going to help the negotiations that are coming up.

You should tell that to half your pig head comrades in the other thread.... I'm not there and I don't complain.... Life is life... And next time you're with your co-pilot ask him if he's on Av and slap him on the head for true trolling, I just copy-paste, regurgitate all that is said by your peers....

wooden spoon · Post by **wooden spoon** » Mon May 01, 2006 7:50 pm

cyyz.....co-pilot isnt that like stewardess.you could have said hydraulic engineer or for the back end cookie pusher.dude be more creative.
you sound like you could be a reporter for a national newspaper or something...

55+ · Post by **55+** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:09 pm

oops..... I was about to book a trip on CJ with the other half to the "Rock", "Dark Island" or whatever you want to call it. Sounds like CJ isn't a happy place with its campers, could it be a JetsGo ending. Guess, I will have to wander over to the Air Canada page and place my bet there just to be safe. Old retired pukes like me gotta watch out for the scarce bucks.

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:30 pm

smell blood do ya?

rickenbacker · Post by **rickenbacker** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:18 am

There's no blood in the water. Just a bit of posturing that got out of hand. There was never any intention for the common folk to see that internal memo, let alone have it in the Globe. Regardless of what people think or feel, a contract is just a year away, give or take a few months. Everyone should just sit back relax and watch the show. Believe half of what you read and none of what you hear.
Oh and I hear they just lost another one.....

J31 · Post by **J31** » Tue May 02, 2006 3:56 am

55+ wrote:oops..... I was about to book a trip on CJ with the other half to the "Rock", "Dark Island" or whatever you want to call it. Sounds like CJ isn't a happy place with its campers, could it be a JetsGo ending. Guess, I will have to wander over to the Air Canada page and place my bet there just to be safe. Old retired pukes like me gotta watch out for the scarce bucks.

CanJet is no Jetgo as several former Jetsgo crew can attest to that. We will be around for a long time to come. Despite the few whiners on this forum most of the CanJet crew are professionals and strive to make this airline the best it can be.

I would not worry about booking a flight…..you will have a great flight

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