Crash in Edmonton?

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:59 pm

Did anyone else hear about the 737 that allegedly "crashed short of the runway"?

Bcn-In-Bnd · Post by **Bcn-In-Bnd** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:18 pm

I think this is what you are looking for. ???

http://edmonton.cbc.ca/regional/servlet ... ir20040225

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:19 pm

That page seems to contain nothing but broken pictures...

mbflyer · Post by **mbflyer** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:23 pm

Try This Link:

http://edmonton.cbc.ca/regional/servlet ... ir20040225

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:31 pm

Things are pretty bad in YEG right now and were worse last night. Heard KFC going missed in 0 vis and arrival told him afterwards "You're not going to believe this but runway 20 now has 2200 RVR, do you want to try it?" but alas they had no fuel for it and headed down to calgary, the third one in a list that kept growing all night. One more advantage to keeping city center open: The Urban Heat Island.

ahramin

Pratt · Post by **Pratt** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:41 pm

From what I was told they landed beside the runway. Fortunately no injuries but alot of bent metal. Apparently the nose gear was torn off and did alot of damage to the belly of the fuselage.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:45 pm

It must not have been a 737 then. Anybody know which aircraft it was? The 727?

Requesting FL270 · Post by **Requesting FL270** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:51 pm

It was the 737. Apparently they landed beside the runway. 2 Captains on board.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:01 pm

I didn't realize First Air had 737s. Do they combo it with passengers and cargo like the 727s? I just found it odd that they're flying with only 31 passengers, unless there is cargo of course.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:05 pm

Nevermind, I found it on their website.

Anti-Ice · Post by **Anti-Ice** » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:36 pm

YIKES

That's awful

, second accident on landing in last couple years. It's a relief that everyone walked aways. I heard it was 0/0 in YEG this Weds. afternoon and infact we had a medevac to fly to the City Centre today but the boys never even tried.
All sympathies out to those involved.

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:58 am

Yeah... it was crap there all day.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:35 am

Well, somebody's gotta say it. Might as well be me. If the vis is so bad you land BESIDE the runway......WHY ARE YOU THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE???

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:15 pm

Hey Doc, think you might be jumping the gun just a *little* bit?

Got the metar/speci for the time of incident?

Got the first hand info from folks involved?

Got a bunch of rumours from the internet?

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:22 pm

Donald...perhaps a little. So, what happened then? I've never actually landed "beside" a runway.....well, Okay, there was this time at band camp...

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:51 pm

Come on Jazz does it all the time. What are them big parallel taxiways for anyway?

ahramin

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:31 pm

Doc: I don't "know" what happened, but there are plenty of rumours floating around town. Needless to say, without hearing it from the top, I can only take them as rumours.

I'm also in no hurry to slag 7F without the facts.

FL410 · Post by **FL410** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:37 pm

[quote="Donald"]

Got the metar/speci for the time of incident?

quote]

CYEG 251300Z 00000KT 1/8SM R30/0800FT R12/1000FT FZFG VV003 M14/M15 A2976 RMK FG8 FROIN SLP124

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:38 pm

We check all that let us know if it gets any worse.

Requesting FL270 · Post by **Requesting FL270** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:34 pm

Hey Right Seat Captain..
Just to answer you're earlier question about why there were only 31 Pax., the reason I've heard is that they were on a mine charter.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:30 pm

Thanks!

joe to go · Post by **joe to go** » Thu Feb 26, 2004 10:05 pm

i think a lot of first air's planes are combi's which is probably why there were so few people on board.

DC6driver · Post by **DC6driver** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:07 am

i am not in YEG now, but in subsequent winters on a shitty day the large runways, the parallel taxiway, and the large area of grass in between those surfaces can produce an illusion. If everything is covered in snow, the space in between runway and taxi can look like the proper runway.

I have been caught by it a couple of times, but am fortunate enough to not be in such poor conditions that it bit me.

1st timer · Post by **1st timer** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:51 am

Thanks DC6 driver, I cant stand all the arm chair quarter backs who are big fish in thier little pond make coments about things they don't know about.
Sorry had to edit, just read what I wrote and it sounds like I was slaging DC6. I am not. It is good to hear someone who may have been in a simular situation shed some light on what happened instead of passing judgement.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:35 pm

DC6, I don't want you to think I'm slagging you here, but I'm just curious how it can look like that. Most airports I've seen in a storm, I can see how the taxiway can be mistaken for a runway, but the area between taxiway and runway at most airports are cris-crossed with taxiways, and this time of year they're quite visible form the approach with their dirty snowbanks. Just wonder if you can describe what you see, so that I can avoid this myself in the future.

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