New Bid id out- almost 600 more

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:31 am

Mduffy

Sevearal variables to your answer. First of all, while you are on probation, you don't really want to put yourself at any more risk than need be. A Captain upgrade at Air Canada is not simply a left seat PPC. It is a several month process with around 5 or 6 check rides involved. So why do all that when you are on probation is what was being said.

You may very well see a change in who bids the left seat of the Embraer. It had the "RJ" stigma attached to it and most pilots at AC did anything to avoid the RJ, allowing the openings to go junior. Also, many wait out the first few bids on a new aircraft to see what it will be doing and get feedback from other pilots before bidding it. With the 190s' arriving, you will probably see some A320s' leaving next bid as the Embraer is not doing "RJ" flying anymore. Several of my colleagues from the 340 are scheduled for their EMJ Command course in the coming weeks so it will be interesting to see who goes where.

If you did bid for something and get it, I am not so sure you can turn it down. ( especially on probation ) That is why bidding is so important. I am not sure what would happen in the case you describe.

Lost in Saigon · Post by **Lost in Saigon** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:09 am

So would you not be the most experienced person available if you won the bid?

So why would you not bid left seat on this new airplane? Is it simply for fear of failing? Who would the airline put in that seat if you DID NOT bid it?

Bidding has nothing to do with experience. It is only seniority. If no one senior to you bids it, then you get awarded it. If you don't bid it, the guy below you gets it. Very simple.

thrust set · Post by **thrust set** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:48 am

Bede

From what was told to me the hiring from Jazz will continue at approx 40 % just like the old LOU18 stated before CCAA. Now the company has the option to slow it down when ever it suits their needs or even Jazz's needs. The first interview round is coming to a close meaning those that never had their numbers in before the June 03 2005 now have their chance and this is one way the company can see their costs at Jazz coming down . The guys making 50 + a year being replaced by guys making in the low 30's. Get two new hires to train together and thus sharing the cost that is attributed to the company.

What would have happened if the global solution committee had gone through . One is you would not see the number of scared pilots from Jazz not bidding the left seat like so many new hires I have talked to over here at AC.

IMHO

qwert · Post by **qwert** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:52 pm

So whats the story? Do any of you guys know if Jazz will keep on hiring from this point on?

Pourdu_fun · Post by **Pourdu_fun** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:05 pm

Hey i was told no yesterday from someone at the recruitment center. Here is what i was sent by email. Quote '' we are done our current hiring but will be in contact possibly in the fall. ''

Pourdu

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:37 pm

From what I know, the hiring to fill vacancies will be ending in June. After the next bid, there will no doubt be vacancies and hiring will continue until the layoffs start. Enjoy the rollercoaster.

socrates · Post by **socrates** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:33 pm

Is the next bid in june or july?

Any estimates on how many vacancies it will show?

flyboy1234 · Post by **flyboy1234** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:21 pm

On another note, Happy Easter everyone!!

IflyaSewerpipe · Post by **IflyaSewerpipe** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:28 pm

Bede, do you know if May 1 is the last groundschool for now or will they have a couple more?

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:09 am

Sewerpipe,

I have no idea. I'm just passing on what I read in the weekly memo's. The best source would be a guy in the indoc GS. They're usually the closest to the trg folks and would know.

Dizzy · Post by **Dizzy** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:16 am

Two Groundschools in May, one starting in May and finishing in June and then one more in June. This is from about a month ago but I haven't heard any more

IflyaSewerpipe · Post by **IflyaSewerpipe** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:25 am

k, thanks guys.

Here's hoping!

My medical was at the end of March.

sportingrifle · Post by **sportingrifle** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:47 am

Tony...ref. my earlier post. Next bid probably won't make you quite as happy as the last piece of fiction. Hopefully this upcoming one will be similarly superceded prior to implementation. Given that billions of dollars change hands when airplanes are ordered, I can't believe that the company could be this shortsighted, hence my attribution of ulterior motives to the bids. Cheers.

Treetopflyer · Post by **Treetopflyer** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:29 pm

With respect to the number at Jazz interviewing now, at least the first 3 new hire classes have been called for interviews. I am really wondering how many new hires (on a percentage interviewed) will be hired.
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
TTF

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:46 pm

Indeed.