Olivia Chow is quoted in the paper today as wanting Porter's AOC stopped as she fears that if Porter starts flying it will be harder to stop them later. The Min of Trans appointing five TPA board members and giving a deferral of the Tasse review to mid October has spooked the anti-YTZ forces (couldn't happen to nicer people, especially you Mr Mayor).
Would the uncertainty regarding YTZ's future operation be cause for refusing an AOC? I'm not familiar with the requirements for getting one.
Porter's AOC
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I'm sick of those old island coots eh!!!
It's simple. Thats a great airport location for the downtown biz man and a great alternate for the biz traveller that wants to stay away from the headache known as CYYZ.
If that airport is going to be underused...might as well shut it down and save our tax dollars. Period.
I say, close it down, stop the ferry no bridge no nothing and let those that live on the island figure out how to get over across to get groceries and what not.
F-Them sideways
It's simple. Thats a great airport location for the downtown biz man and a great alternate for the biz traveller that wants to stay away from the headache known as CYYZ.
If that airport is going to be underused...might as well shut it down and save our tax dollars. Period.
I say, close it down, stop the ferry no bridge no nothing and let those that live on the island figure out how to get over across to get groceries and what not.
F-Them sideways
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I would love to see someone base a lear 23/24 at CYTZ for "MEDEVAC" purposes. A 3.00 a.m. departure off 08 would be just what the doctor ordered for those mongrels!!! 
If I had silly wealth I would do it just for the fun of it knowing full well that it would not be profitable. The fun would be my gain. Eat "eau de jet" you scalawags!!!
If I had silly wealth I would do it just for the fun of it knowing full well that it would not be profitable. The fun would be my gain. Eat "eau de jet" you scalawags!!!
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Doubt that would ever happen since they have that jet ban imposed. I cant stand the Islanders!! They live in a completely different world.Nightflight wrote:I would love to see someone base a lear 23/24 at CYTZ for "MEDEVAC" purposes. A 3.00 a.m. departure off 08 would be just what the doctor ordered for those mongrels!!!
If I had silly wealth I would do it just for the fun of it knowing full well that it would not be profitable. The fun would be my gain. Eat "eau de jet" you scalawags!!!
I think he's talking about taking the TC fine on a regular basis. Just add it into the cost of business(quotes).Golden Flyer wrote:Doubt that would ever happen since they have that jet ban imposed. I cant stand the Islanders!! They live in a completely different world.Nightflight wrote:I would love to see someone base a lear 23/24 at CYTZ for "MEDEVAC" purposes. A 3.00 a.m. departure off 08 would be just what the doctor ordered for those mongrels!!!
If I had silly wealth I would do it just for the fun of it knowing full well that it would not be profitable. The fun would be my gain. Eat "eau de jet" you scalawags!!!
When an MP needs an organ or quick care no doubt... Glad to hear it though.C-FABH wrote:Jets are allowed for Medevac purposes, and they do visit once in a blue moon!LT wrote:I think he's talking about taking the TC fine on a regular basis. Just add it into the cost of business(quotes).
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It is time to take off
Having a fully-equipped city airport is an advantage
that Toronto already has and should benefit from
Aug. 29, 2006. 01:00 AM
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Aug. 27.
Maybe it is time for the argument about the operation of the City Centre Airport to come to an end. The number of waterfront condos and residents has grown with the airport already in operation 12 months a year with several Air Canada Jazz flights.
The supposed noise a plane makes during the seconds it takes for it to take off or land didn't seem to stop people from moving to the waterfront.
The group of people who oppose the progress that an airport brings to the community have used a series of reasons as varied as they are contradictory.
One of the reasons they argue is the noise produced by the airport. As a resident of the 27th floor of a condo at Queens Quay West and Lower Simcoe St., I can attest without mistake that I have been able to see the Jazz airplanes but never hear them as the noise is drowned down by the intense, constant and growing noise generated by the traffic on the Gardiner Expressway.
Before Porter Airlines made it known that it was interested in operating from the Toronto City Centre Airport, the argument was: "The Island airport must be closed because it is a dormant airport." Now that the operations of Porter Airlines could make it an "awake airport," the argument is that it will produce too much noise. Contradictory, isn't it?
The Island airport's deficit was always cause for worry. Now that private investment would bring money into it, the opposing groups should applaud the enterprise. If they don't, it might mean there is a hidden interest in their demand. City Hall always has a deficit, but we all agree that it should be made to operate efficiently, not be closed down.
There is a large, and growing, number of airports in city centres worldwide: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, La Guardia (N.Y.), Hong Kong, Copenhagen, just to mention a few in America, Asia and Europe. They all produce revenues for the cities where they are located. Having an airport that is fully equipped to operate 24 hours a day, 12 months a year, is an advantage that Toronto already has and should benefit from.
Toronto is ready; it is time to take off.
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Carlos Romero, Toronto
Having a fully-equipped city airport is an advantage
that Toronto already has and should benefit from
Aug. 29, 2006. 01:00 AM
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Up in the air
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Aug. 27.
Maybe it is time for the argument about the operation of the City Centre Airport to come to an end. The number of waterfront condos and residents has grown with the airport already in operation 12 months a year with several Air Canada Jazz flights.
The supposed noise a plane makes during the seconds it takes for it to take off or land didn't seem to stop people from moving to the waterfront.
The group of people who oppose the progress that an airport brings to the community have used a series of reasons as varied as they are contradictory.
One of the reasons they argue is the noise produced by the airport. As a resident of the 27th floor of a condo at Queens Quay West and Lower Simcoe St., I can attest without mistake that I have been able to see the Jazz airplanes but never hear them as the noise is drowned down by the intense, constant and growing noise generated by the traffic on the Gardiner Expressway.
Before Porter Airlines made it known that it was interested in operating from the Toronto City Centre Airport, the argument was: "The Island airport must be closed because it is a dormant airport." Now that the operations of Porter Airlines could make it an "awake airport," the argument is that it will produce too much noise. Contradictory, isn't it?
The Island airport's deficit was always cause for worry. Now that private investment would bring money into it, the opposing groups should applaud the enterprise. If they don't, it might mean there is a hidden interest in their demand. City Hall always has a deficit, but we all agree that it should be made to operate efficiently, not be closed down.
There is a large, and growing, number of airports in city centres worldwide: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, La Guardia (N.Y.), Hong Kong, Copenhagen, just to mention a few in America, Asia and Europe. They all produce revenues for the cities where they are located. Having an airport that is fully equipped to operate 24 hours a day, 12 months a year, is an advantage that Toronto already has and should benefit from.
Toronto is ready; it is time to take off.
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Carlos Romero, Toronto
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Ridiculous
Listen, the whole argument is completely stupid! If you're at harbour front during the day, you can't even hear the planes because of the noise from the million of cars pulling in and out of the downtown area and traffic at the airport is basically done at around 10 because the ferry stop running. The one airport that can atleast save some people from Pearson... Miller & Chow want to close it down. If they had specific points that were realistic and actually benifited, it would make some damn sense... 
Everyday you hear about this issue, there is a new point being brought up for Chow & Miller to argue!
Everyday you hear about this issue, there is a new point being brought up for Chow & Miller to argue!When has a polititian ever done anything because it's good sense. It's all about vote getting. Basically the same thing has happened in Edmonton with City Center. Is anyone really suprised that Calgary is way out front. Who wants to drive 30 minutes minimum to get to where you used to be able to go in 10 minutes. The City Center airport was what made Edmonton click. But our Beloved left leaning Mayor Jan Reimer made the biggest blunder in Edmonton's history and Edmonton will never ever make up for the loss. It used to be the gateway to the north. Now it's the back forty, overflown by dozens of flights headed for Calgary. Toronto should exploit that little airport but it's days are numbered sorry.
Porter got their first plane today.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/money/national/ ... r-air.html
Porter Airlines gets 1st plane for proposed Toronto-Ottawa run
Last Updated Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:29:32 EDT
CBC News
Porter Airlines, the fledgling carrier with a controversial plan to run flights between Toronto's island airport and Ottawa, took delivery of its first aircraft on Tuesday.
The privately owned company is still waiting for clearance from Transport Canada and the Canadian Transportation Agency to commence operations at Toronto's City Centre Airport, which it hopes to do by fall.
The company said in a statement Tuesday that it had received the first of 10 70-seat Bombardier Q400 turboprop aircraft.
It initially plans to run 10 roundtrip weekday flights and weekend service between the island airport and Ottawa.
The airline has yet to announce its flight schedule and its fares.
The formation of Porter Airlines was announced in February by a group led by Robert Deluce, who ran Air Ontario before it was taken over by Air Canada.
The long-time airline veteran had created a huge political controversy in Toronto two years earlier with plans for a new airline at the downtown airport.
Similar criticisms surfaced after news broke of Porter's formation and plans.
Olivia Chow, the federal member of parliament for the area that includes the island airport, said a few days ago that the airline should not be allowed to operate until a federal review of the Toronto Port Authority finishes.
The review, which started in May and has been extended to Oct. 15, examines the mandate of the port authority, which oversees the airport.
When he announced the new airline, Deluce said it will offer consumers a downtown alternative to Lester B. Pearson International Airport and serve Canadian and U.S. destinations within an 800-kilometre radius of Toronto.
Its destinations could include Montreal, New York and Chicago, as well as a variety of suburban airports near those cities.
He said the airline and its related businesses could create 500 new direct and indirect jobs at Toronto's island airport, in addition to the 150 existing jobs and 20 businesses there.
Earlier in the summer, Air Canada announced plans to fly between Ottawa and Toronto island airport.
The airline quickly delayed those plans after a dispute arose with the port authority.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/money/national/ ... r-air.html
Porter Airlines gets 1st plane for proposed Toronto-Ottawa run
Last Updated Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:29:32 EDT
CBC News
Porter Airlines, the fledgling carrier with a controversial plan to run flights between Toronto's island airport and Ottawa, took delivery of its first aircraft on Tuesday.
The privately owned company is still waiting for clearance from Transport Canada and the Canadian Transportation Agency to commence operations at Toronto's City Centre Airport, which it hopes to do by fall.
The company said in a statement Tuesday that it had received the first of 10 70-seat Bombardier Q400 turboprop aircraft.
It initially plans to run 10 roundtrip weekday flights and weekend service between the island airport and Ottawa.
The airline has yet to announce its flight schedule and its fares.
The formation of Porter Airlines was announced in February by a group led by Robert Deluce, who ran Air Ontario before it was taken over by Air Canada.
The long-time airline veteran had created a huge political controversy in Toronto two years earlier with plans for a new airline at the downtown airport.
Similar criticisms surfaced after news broke of Porter's formation and plans.
Olivia Chow, the federal member of parliament for the area that includes the island airport, said a few days ago that the airline should not be allowed to operate until a federal review of the Toronto Port Authority finishes.
The review, which started in May and has been extended to Oct. 15, examines the mandate of the port authority, which oversees the airport.
When he announced the new airline, Deluce said it will offer consumers a downtown alternative to Lester B. Pearson International Airport and serve Canadian and U.S. destinations within an 800-kilometre radius of Toronto.
Its destinations could include Montreal, New York and Chicago, as well as a variety of suburban airports near those cities.
He said the airline and its related businesses could create 500 new direct and indirect jobs at Toronto's island airport, in addition to the 150 existing jobs and 20 businesses there.
Earlier in the summer, Air Canada announced plans to fly between Ottawa and Toronto island airport.
The airline quickly delayed those plans after a dispute arose with the port authority.
http://www.680news.com/news/local/artic ... 85855_1108
Porter Airlines ready to fly out of the island airport
August 29, 2006 - 4:23 pm
By: James Munroe
Porter airlines has big plans for expansion after it starts service to Ottawa later this year.
It was an impressive airshow when the airline showed off its first new turbo-prop airliner to VIPS and the media.
As the shiny new bird did a fly by, it didn't create the type of plate rattling ruckus one might expect.
Porter airlines CEO Robert Deluce says he thinks once the local get to know the new bird in town they will warm up to it.
Deluce says his airline will start flying to Ottawa 10 times a week in late September or early October and he wants to have 20 jets and 500 employees traveling to U.S. destinations, so it appears the skies the limit.
Meanwhile, Mayor Miller wasn't invited to the event today. He fought the bridge and won. He continues to fight the island airport expansion but appears to be losing.
Porter Airlines ready to fly out of the island airport
August 29, 2006 - 4:23 pm
By: James Munroe
Porter airlines has big plans for expansion after it starts service to Ottawa later this year.
It was an impressive airshow when the airline showed off its first new turbo-prop airliner to VIPS and the media.
As the shiny new bird did a fly by, it didn't create the type of plate rattling ruckus one might expect.
Porter airlines CEO Robert Deluce says he thinks once the local get to know the new bird in town they will warm up to it.
Deluce says his airline will start flying to Ottawa 10 times a week in late September or early October and he wants to have 20 jets and 500 employees traveling to U.S. destinations, so it appears the skies the limit.
Meanwhile, Mayor Miller wasn't invited to the event today. He fought the bridge and won. He continues to fight the island airport expansion but appears to be losing.
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C-GPFG, you beat me to the question! If Deluce gets that jet band removed, he will be doing a beautiful thing. I hope and pray this porter thing works outC-GPFG wrote:20 jets???EI-EIO wrote:
...he wants to have 20 jets and 500 employees traveling to U.S. destinations, so it appears the skies the limit.
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