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Just wondering if anyone could tell me what you need to have as far as ratings and flight time to go on a be-99 or twin under 12,566 but more than nine seats. (as an F.O) Thanks.
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Hey its just a commercial with a multi rating and IFR if flying at night. But you should check the CARS better. I only skimmed them. And a PCC or PPC. Nothing else man. Go talk to some Europeans and ask them what they have when they start flying the largers jets.
Canada is unique. We build all this time and experiance then talk to someone else around the world and, "oh! you are just captian on the 1900, whats wrong with you, bad career moves.?" Eat shit!
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What are you flying under?

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is that your personal plane?
It will depend of what set of rules you are flying under.
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704: Commercial, and unless Day VFR, a group I instrument rating. Flying it operationally will require a PPC or PCC
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Are you trying to solve the mystery of why Keystone wants $9000 as a training bond to be an f/o on the 99?
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Snowgoose wrote:Are you trying to solve the mystery of why Keystone wants $9000 as a training bond to be an f/o on the 99?
:shock:

Even Perimeter only wanted $6000 on the lawndart beleive

Could be wrong, that was a few years ago.
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It was (is still?) $5000 with year and a half committment at the PAG.

How long is the one at Keystone?
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Post by The Old Fogducker »

Hi Folks:

Been inactive on the message board lately. Here is a copy and paste from the CARs. According to section (c) you need a PPC (not a PCC) for 704 operations. A PCC is acceptable for the F/O in 703 Ops, but not 704 (more than 9 passengers)

The aspect of weight has nothing to do with needing a Type Rating. That is determined by the manufacturer during the certification process, or by TC after the fact.

If the maker designates the plane will be flown by two pilots, you need a type rating for both people in the front end. If the aircraft has a VMO or VNE of 250 Kts or greater, a Type Rating is needed even if it is a single pilot certified plane. There are some types which the manufacturer says can be flown by one pilot under certain conditions, and two pilots under more demanding situations. An example of that little "gotcha" is the Bandit 110 which is OK for single pilot under Day VFR, but two pilots for all other ops. Some "after market mods" push the performance up over the 250 kt limit and a rating is required for that one, but not another that looks the same.

Clear as mud now?


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704.108 Flight Crew Member Qualifications
(1) Subject to subsection (6), no air operator shall permit a person to act and no person shall act as a flight crew member in an aircraft unless the person

(a) holds the licence and ratings required by Part IV;

(b) within the previous 90 days, has completed at least three take-offs and three landings

(i) where a type rating for that aircraft is required, in an aircraft of that type, or in a flight simulator representing that type of aircraft that has been approved by the Minister under Subpart 6 of Part VI for take-off and landing qualifications, or

(ii) where a type rating for that aircraft is not required, in an aircraft of that category and class, or in a flight simulator representing that category and class of aircraft that has been approved by the Minister under Subpart 6 of Part VI for take-off and landing qualifications;

(c) has successfully completed a pilot proficiency check, the validity period of which has not expired, for that type of aircraft, in accordance with the Commercial Air Service Standards; and

(d) has fulfilled the requirements of the air operator's ground training program and, except where undergoing line indoctrination training, the air operator's flight training program.
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Far as I know it was two years for the bond at Keystone. That's what I was told by a buddy of mine who got interviewed there. Thankfully he turned down the job
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