Cat, tell me you didn't train this guy please...

Tango01 · Post by **Tango01** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:38 pm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1835&hl=en

desksgo · Post by **desksgo** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:50 am

Ahhhhhaahahahahahha! That was the way to start my morning. Gotta love the comradery exhibted in the collective " (BANG!)Ohhhhhhh (BANG!) OHHHHHH (BANG!) OHHHHHHH" followed by college frat dude "OH MY GAWD"...Freakin' sweet, wish I went to that school.

Dominic220 · Post by **Dominic220** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:48 am

desksgo wrote:...wish I went to that school.

Now, forgive my ignorance, but why would you want to go to a school that allows their students to wheelbarrow an aircraft more than once?

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:54 am

Dominic220 wrote:
desksgo wrote:...wish I went to that school.
Now, forgive my ignorance, but why would you want to go to a school that allows their students to wheelbarrow an aircraft more than once?

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TerrainTerrain · Post by **TerrainTerrain** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:29 am

Dominic220 wrote: Now, forgive my ignorance, but why would you want to go to a school that allows their students to wheelbarrow an aircraft more than once?

OOohhh!!! Ahhhhh!! Right Rudder!!!

Freeski · Post by **Freeski** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:36 am

That's one way to give your chiropractor job security!

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:56 am

That's the best argument for learning to fly on a tailwheel aircraft that I've seen in ages

His list of mistakes is long, and ignomious ... and the reason he made them, is that the aircraft he is training on is tolerant of them.

Lurch · Post by **Lurch** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:04 pm

Dominic220 wrote:
desksgo wrote:...wish I went to that school.
Now, forgive my ignorance, but why would you want to go to a school that allows their students to wheelbarrow an aircraft more than once?

He was porpusing, for wheelbarrowing "the mains are lightly loaded or clear of the runway and the nose wheel is firmly in contact with the runway".

The fact the overshoot was crap makes me think there was no instructor on board and that he only did two before overshooting was good training, teaching them not too would have been better but most students panic and just go along for the ride.

Lurch

niss · Post by **niss** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:23 pm

I was about to say......He regained control of the porposing well enough didnt he?

Who is the better aviatior? The one who never gets in to trouble or the one who gets out of it safely?

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:28 pm

Clearly the former. Some trouble you can't get out of.

For example, looking at severe icing or thunderstorms, the better aviator avoids the trouble.

Back on topic, the poor firewall .... there is this thing called a "PIO" ....

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:01 pm

But I'll bet the guy can program an FMS like nobody's business!

You're hired!

-istp

tipspeed · Post by **tipspeed** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:39 pm

Those in glass houses....

Lurch · Post by **Lurch** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:40 pm

istp wrote:But I'll bet the guy can program an FMS like nobody's business!

You're hired!

-istp

1st rule of getting a aviation job

It doesn't matter "what" you know or "how good you are" it is "Who" you know

Before somebody corrects me

yes being in the right place at the right time works too.

Lurch

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:00 pm

tipspeed wrote:Those in glass houses....

I know. I can't land OR program an FMS. All them buttons... too confusing.

-istp

beechy · Post by **beechy** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:00 pm

seen some alot worse then that....

What ever happened to the ol' saying, any landing you can walk away from is a good one?

Seriously like no one on here has ever had a crap landing before......well with the exception of hedley he is perfect.

mcrit · Post by **mcrit** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:33 pm

Hey Beechy, well said, you beat me to it.

niss · Post by **niss** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:20 pm

Thats what I was getting at with my comment. He had a shit landing recovered and lived to tell about it......why are we ridiculing him?

Almost_there · Post by **Almost_there** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:34 am

well someone has to make fun of the college right? isnt that the norm around here...
bleh

Hoov · Post by **Hoov** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:19 am

I would be the first to laugh at myself if I did exactly what I just saw on that video, so I dont feel guilty for laughing.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:10 am

He had a shit landing recovered and lived to tell about it

Yes, and in the process, might have wrinkled the firewall of the poor cessna, and at least popped a few rivets off the nose gear with that porpoise.

You can sure tell who owns (and works on) aircraft, and who doesn't, but what they say here.

The "hamburger" pilots think it's ok to bash around and damage aircraft, which is why rentals are inevitably such junk.

Apart from what that dumbass did during his landing, he almost stalled during the overshoot - departure stall, anyone ... bueller? Even if you don't care about damaging the aircraft, you might think crashing on takeoff is probably a bad thing.

Bottom line: he was improperly trained by his instructor, who likely has sub-standard stick & rudder skills, too. He should not have been sent solo. Maybe you guys think my standards for stick & rudder skills are too high, but this guy was 'way below standard.

I've only been the CFI at two different schools, so what do I know, compared to you low-time "experts" here?

beechy · Post by **beechy** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:56 am

So what you are saying is that you have never had a bad landing?

This guy's one landing you saw says absolutely nothing about my or anyone elses stick and rudder skills......so where you get of i don't know......While yor stick and rudder skills might be something to behold, your radio skills and common sense are worth crap......something i have seen first hand.

I'd like to hear what Cat has to say, ever had a bad landing Cat? would love to hear about it if you have.......

BTW everone starts somewhere.....DINK

mcrit · Post by **mcrit** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:58 am

Marchiko says:
I've never punished my men for making mistakes, only for not learning from them.
Point being, everbody makes errors, its part of the learning process (and entertaining for the rest of us

) So, feel free to laugh and jab fun (as a wise man once told me, "If you can't make fun of someone else, who can you make fun of!?), but take a long hard look at your own time as a student pilot before you start thinking your shit doesn't stink.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:08 am

You two geniuses are, as usual, completely missing the point ... this student was sent solo too soon. It's not really his fault for his lack of skill - his instructor should not have sent him solo.

Now, did I use any words either of you didn't understand?

P.S. Beechy, you're awfully brave here, where you're safely anonymous. Feel free to show up in person sometime at CYSH and start insulting me in person, ok?

beechy · Post by **beechy** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:25 am

Just because someone performs well in front of an instructor doesn't mean he will do so when solo ALL THE TIME. People screw up it is the one thing you can be sure of. Some of the learning process needs to be done on your own, either way you don't even know if this guy was solo dual or flying with you.

I am not insulting you, i am merely presenting a different side to the story. Also, i wouldn't be so quick on making bold statements of other peoples skills, when you won't even use teh common sense to tune up your radio for a flight.

And then the fight challange, very manly very mature.....simply further proving my point. I will definately land next time you try to have a mid air with me and wack you with my tow bar!

niss · Post by **niss** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:27 am

You can sure tell who owns (and works on) aircraft, and who doesn't, but what they say here.

The "hamburger" pilots think it's ok to bash around and damage aircraft, which is why rentals are inevitably such junk.

I own and I am scared shitless that I will hurt my airplane.... whats your point?

I havent porpoised like that before and hope i never do...but so what.....how do you know the guy wasnt normally good, or good enough so that his instructor was confident....

Just because I havent porpoised dosnt mean i wont ever..... aslong as i have the sufficient skill and knowledge to get out of it safely who cares....

Hopefully the airframe is aok and the student knows what not to do next time...