Twin Otter PPC...is this helpful?

. . · Post by **. .** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:43 pm

I think JC summed it up perfectly. The flying part of most twin otter jobs isn't the hardest part to learn. It's far easier to train a guy in a very basic twin turbine than it is to teach someone how to operate in the north. There's all the crazy loads, there's the work ethic required, theres' the ability to tolerate the remote nature of many of the spots.

From what I've seen of the Downsview Twin Otter sim, it's a piece of junk. I wouldn't want to sink 8k into flying that around. It looks like more of a procedures trainer than a sim.

canpilot · Post by **canpilot** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:50 pm

Step up,

Get a dock job, work your ass off, work your way up the "chains" then get that PPC for free.

Option two, work the dock/ ramp or get a job in the oil patch/ drilling, make some coin then build up some time on a cheap float equipped aircraft. If you get enough time, you might be able to get a job at lodge * i've hear rumors that the hiring requirements are lower* . Do a season or two of flying then apply to a larger operator (703/704). Working your way up the ladder is half the fun!!!!

P.S. I do recall you posting a question quite similar a while back.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:24 pm

All these guys saying..."work the ramp...pay your dues..."....Screw them! Kick open the chief pilot's office door. Pull out your daddy's cheque book, write a big cheque, then, start a relationship with the training captain! I've seen this approach work on at least one occasion! You don't even need to know how to fly! In fact...you can really suck at it!.......as long as you CAN really SUCK!

40 Set&Indicated · Post by **40 Set&Indicated** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:30 pm

Working the dock not only teaches you how to work, how to load the aircraft, and makes you an appreciate the dockhands when you finally earn your ride, but will also gain the respect of your peers and the people who you will be flying with.
In this industry, respect is everything.

looproll · Post by **looproll** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:40 pm

Alberta Central Airways has a twin otter and they hired a ~250hr wonder to fly right seat in it.

Idriveplane · Post by **Idriveplane** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:03 pm

Working the dock not only teaches you how to work, how to load the aircraft, and makes you an appreciate the dockhands when you finally earn your ride, but will also gain the respect of your peers and the people who you will be flying with.
In this industry, respect is everything

Well said

Raybanman · Post by **Raybanman** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:10 pm

looproll wrote:Alberta Central Airways has a twin otter and they hired a ~250hr wonder to fly right seat in it.

Yes they did and he didn't show up to the interview with his checkbook out. He worked hard, had a positive attitude and had good hands and feet, when he left he flew everything in the fleet except the BE200. Why? Good attitude and good work ethic. Not because he was too good to work the ramp, (I don't know if that is what you were implying looproll-just thought I'd clear it up)

Alberta Central has no rampies. You wash your plane, you tow it in and out of the hangar, you fuel it, you clean the ickies out of the seat pocket, you mop the office floor and push snow in -40. But you also get to fly some of the best maintained and equipped machines in the area, are paid more than NCA with twice the time off. If you don't have work ethic you'd be ostrisized faster than you could flip a new check out.

Cheers,
PP