Inequality and Discrimination in Hebron the Jewish City

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Inequality and Discrimination in Hebron
The Jewish Community of Hebron
February 02, 2007

In contrast to the false, anti-Jewish, and anti-Israeli propaganda,
here are the real facts:

* Hebron , a Jewish City

From the standpoint of some of the Israeli and international public, Hebron is an “Arab city.” This view is occasioned by Hebron’s location over the “Green Line,” its current demographic situation (tens of thousands of Arabs alongside only around 1,000 Jews in the inner city, plus 7,000 or so in adjacent Kiryat Arba), and incessant propaganda by the Left. History, however, did not begin in 1967. No cultured person who has studied Bible and ancient and modern history can deny the facts: Hebron is the first Jewish city in history. It is the place where the Jewish national patriarchs lived and were buried. Their burial plot—Ma'arat HaMachpela, the Tomb of the Patriarchs—was the first Jewish property purchased in the Land of Israel, and one of the Jewish people’s most impressive monuments was built atop it. Hebron is an object of yearning for Jews throughout the Diaspora and is numbered among the four holy cities (along with Jerusalem , Tiberias, and Safed). The Jewish community in Hebron existed for thousands of years until it was brutally displaced in 1929—after Arab marauders murdered, raped, and burned to death scores of Jews and dispossessed the community of properties that included hundreds of acres of real estate.




If the Jewish people has undeniable rights anywhere on earth, it is in Hebron . The Jewish community of Hebron today resides on a relatively small fraction of the Jewish property that had been plundered in the 1929 pogrom. This community constitutes the basis and the beginning of the return of Jews to the world’s oldest Jewish city.




* Jews are allowed to enter only 3 percent of the municipal area.




The city limits of Hebron encompass eighteen square kilometers. Of this area, fifteen square kilometers are defined as H1, the area that was surrendered to the Palestinian Authority; this area is off-limits to Jews. Nearly all of the remaining area, H2, is open to unrestricted Arab traffic and presence. The presence of Jews is also forbidden in most of this area. In fact, Jews are allowed in only six tenths of a square kilometer, 3 percent of the municipal area! ...snip hebron.com

[bmc]

Fiction

[LostinRotation]

If I scratched out some bull$h!t on a paper and gave it to you, you would probably take it as fact, as long as it supported your agenda.

Seriously...start taking those pills.

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[Golden Flyer]

Canadians reflect a dynamic and evolving cultural, ethnic and linguistic makeup that is found nowhere else on earth. As recognized by the Department of Canadian Heritage (Multiculturalism): “Approximately 200,000 immigrants a year from all parts of the globe continue to choose Canada, drawn by its quality of life and its reputation as an open, peaceful and caring society that welcomes newcomers and values diversity.” Canada’s approach to diversity is based on the understanding that “respect for cultural distinctiveness is intrinsic to an individual’s sense of self worth and identity, and a society that accommodates everyone equally is a society that encourages achievement, participation, attachment to country and a sense of belonging.” (http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/multi/respect_e.cfm)

“This does not mean that there aren’t tensions in Canada that flow from the differences between people. But as these tensions are addressed, Canadians learn to adapt and relate to one another despite their differences. Through practice, we have come to understand that the differences between us do not have to divide us. … Diversity is moving beyond language, ethnicity, race and religion, to include cross-cutting characteristics such as gender, sexual orientation, and range of ability and age. The same approaches that have helped Canadians develop into a bilingual, multicultural society are now also helping to bring down other barriers that prevent individuals from reaching their full potential.”

Canadian Diversity: Respecting our Differences
Department of Canadian Heritage (Multiculturalism)
http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/multi/respect_e.cfm

The diversity of cultures in Canada is reflected in a rich tapestry of traditions, and these are especially important to new immigrants. The 2003 Ethnic Diversity Survey conducted by Statistics Canada, for example, found that 57 per cent of first generation Canadians had a strong sense of belonging to their ethnic or cultural group, and about 63 per cent (or 6.5 million people) said that maintaining ethnic customs and traditions was important. (http://www.statcan.ca/english/IPS/Data/89-593-XIE.htm)

The first-ever Canadian Multiculturalism Day was on June 27, 2003 as part of the Celebrate Canada! program of activities. A new strategic plan on diversity and culture was released with the first objective being to “ensure that the composition of the Canadian Heritage Portfolio, including commissions, boards, juries, and workforce, is representative of the diversity of Canada.” (http://www.pch.gc.ca/special/dcforum/pu ... trat_e.pdf)

[w squared]

I actually wonder why you even bother posting, CC. You've alienated us AvCanadians to such a degree that the only thing you accomplish is annoying us.

If you actually wish someone to take you seriously, you should do the following.

#1. Actually write more than two or three lines in your own words. Put some effort into a post, and prove to us that you are capable of stringing together a logical, coherent argument. So far, you have demonstrated less inthe way of language skills than a moderately accomplished ten year old.

#2. Use something other than "the bible says" as an argument. We all know that this is circular logic..."the bible is the word of god and must therefore be taken as absolute truth" is not really supported by "in the bible, god says that it is his word".

#3. Format your posts to make them more comprehensible. Learn to use the quote feature properly.

#4. When another poster offers a rebuttal to your original post, do something more constructive than quoting a random passage from the bible and then telling them that they are a fool doomed to hellfire and brimstone because they don't believe as you do.

#5. Cease and desist from the misquoting of holy books that belong to other people's religions. What would you say if I suggested that the seventh commandment was actually "Thou shalt take up the sword and smite every unbeliever thou seest."?

#6. Be a little bit less venomous in spreading hatred, and a little more tolerant towards those whose beliefs don't match yours exactly. "Live and let live" may not be the most profound saying on the face of the planet, but it's one that you could learn a lot from.

You are entitled to your opinions and beliefs, and just as entitled as anyone here to express them. What I am getting at is that the way in which you are choosing to express them has already prevented the people here from actually hearing what you are saying. If you continue down the same path, I wouldn't be surprised if you are eventually prevented from posting here when some of your posts go too far over the line into hate speech...or mabye just because you become a little too annoying.

[niss]

In response to the content of CCs post part of it is true. The Cave of Machpelah (tomb of the patriarchs) was recaptured in 1967 but the Waqf have control over it.

Security and conflict

After the Six Day War, the area came under the control of Israel, and the restriction limiting Jews to the 7th step was lifted. However, in 1994 Baruch Goldstein, took a sub machine gun into the enclosure and killed 29 Palestinian Muslims who had been at prayer, as well as injuring 125 others, before being bludgeoned to death by survivors. The resulting riots left an additional 26 Palestinians and 9 Israelis dead, and the incident provoked national and international condemnation of Goldstein's actions.

The increased sensitivity of the site meant that in 1995 the Wye River Accords, part of the Arab-Israeli peace process, included a temporary status agreement for the site, restricting access by both Jews and Muslims. As part of this agreement, the waqf controls 81% of the building, including the whole of the southeastern section, which lies above the only known entrance to the caves, and possibly over the entirety of the caves themselves. In consequence, Jews are not permitted to visit the Cenotaphs of Isaac or Rebekah, which lie entirely within the southeastern section, except for 10 days a year which hold special significance in Judaism. One of these days is the Shabbat of Haye Sarah, when the Jews read the Torah portion concerning the death of Abraham and Sarah, and that concerning the purchase by Abraham of the land in which the caves are situated.

The Israeli authorities (who are mainly secular) do not allow Jewish religious authorities the right to maintain the site, and only allow the waqf to do so. Tourists are permitted to enter the site, but have to be escorted either around the Jewish section by Israeli tour guides, or around the Islamic section by Islamic guides, depending on the religion of the tourists in question. Security at the site has increased since the Intifada, and the Israel Defense Forces surround the site with soldiers, and control access to the shrine; there are additional restrictions placed on access by Palestinians beyond the restrictions imposed on Muslims in general by the Wye River Accords.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs

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#
Your reply confirms the maxim that those who are troubled -are easily troubled.
Think about this:
dogs cant pray
dogs like a full stomach
and dogs don't like being disturbed.

If you twitched you have a serious problem

Pro 15:11 Hell and destruction are before Jehovah; even more the hearts of the sons of men.

I actually wonder why you even bother posting, CC. You've alienated us AvCanadians to such a degree that the only thing you accomplish is annoying us.

If you actually wish someone to take you seriously, you should do the following.

#1. Actually write more than two or three lines in your own words. Put some effort into a post, and prove to us that you are capable of stringing together a logical, coherent argument. So far, you have demonstrated less inthe way of language skills than a moderately accomplished ten year old.

#2. Use something other than "the bible says" as an argument. We all know that this is circular logic..."the bible is the word of god and must therefore be taken as absolute truth" is not really supported by "in the bible, god says that it is his word".

#3. Format your posts to make them more comprehensible. Learn to use the quote feature properly.

#4. When another poster offers a rebuttal to your original post, do something more constructive than quoting a random passage from the bible and then telling them that they are a fool doomed to hellfire and brimstone because they don't believe as you do.

#5. Cease and desist from the misquoting of holy books that belong to other people's religions. What would you say if I suggested that the seventh commandment was actually "Thou shalt take up the sword and smite every unbeliever thou seest."?

#6. Be a little bit less venomous in spreading hatred, and a little more tolerant towards those whose beliefs don't match yours exactly. "Live and let live" may not be the most profound saying on the face of the planet, but it's one that you could learn a lot from.

You are entitled to your opinions and beliefs, and just as entitled as anyone here to express them. What I am getting at is that the way in which you are choosing to express them has already prevented the people here from actually hearing what you are saying. If you continue down the same path, I wouldn't be surprised if you are eventually prevented from posting here when some of your posts go too far over the line into hate speech...or mabye just because you become a little too annoying.

[w squared]

Well, I guess that indicates just how much of my post you read.

There's not much point attmepting to havea discussion with you, so I think I'll join the rest of the AvCanadians and simply enjoy you for the limited entertainment value that you provide.

Is there any way to get a "squelch" feature so that posts from certain people can be automatically edited out of what appears on my screen?

[mbflyer]

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!

CC, I can't believe you just responded to Wsquared by illustrating everyone of his points ( and therefore confirming everthing he said)

ahhh...Sunday evening entertainment at its best!!

[mellow_pilot]

Hey CC,

The meek, not the assholes, shall inheret the earth.

Quoting scripture does not righteous you make.

[cloudcounter]

ha ha
I will be ruling and reigning here some day dead head
you probably will never figure out why
but you will have the time...

Hey CC,

The meek, not the assholes, shall inheret the earth.

Quoting scripture does not righteous you make.

[electraguy]

W Squared,


Man this meathead really gets around, hes got something to say about everything, but as observed can't use any of his own words, only the words of "his book" If i wanna read it CC i will check it out of the history section. Hit the bricks jackass and go spread your lies and hatred somewhere else.

[Golden Flyer]

CC, get off that meth. lmao... You sound so fucking delusional. I know scriptures and your interpretations are such horse shit. You come off with some Nastradamous shit.... The worst part about you is you act is if you are God-send and the Pearly Gates of Heaven are opened wide to you. How do you know if you are going to Heaven? Enlighten us!

[niss]

Really?? My well articulated and educational post was upstaged by CC?

[mellow_pilot]

Niss, this was never about Hebron. If it were, there would have been some discussion of the realities of the city. I saw a great report on the CBC a while back. They interviewed a bunch of IDF soldiers, most of them said thier job in Hebron was to protect the Palestinians from the Jewish minority. That place is a powder keg with chain smoking occupants.

Regardless, CC just wanted to start another thread where he could feel big about himself. I'm really starting to wonder if this kid isn't just a 13 yr old who's laughing himself silly. He obviously has no concept of the stuff he's quoting, or is twisting on purpose to piss off the majority of posters. Either way, I'm gonna laugh when the Flying Spagetti Monster refuses CC access to his glorious and saucy kingdom...

[Mr. North]

Where the hell is 748 Ho? I'd pay money to see the Ho and Cloud Counter duke it out!!!

[mellow_pilot]

I'm selling tickets...

[desksgo]

God gave back to Abraham the jar of olives that had been so viciously taken from him, it was in this, that we find life everlasting. And god saught to bring the heathens back from city of David, and oh it was good. Their underwear had been soiled but their hearts remained pure. It was then that snoopy danced upon Linus' piano and this too was good.


Evicticus 3:19



That's how you sound to me. Just so you know.