You are accountable for China's emissions:

[mbflyer]

Yet another reason why Kyoto is flawed.

First Carbon credits and now this.

While Kyoto was idealistic, it wasn't very realistic. Unfortunately, the plan announced by the conservatives went too far the other way.

[2R]

The only thing i want to hear from the Lieberals is where did they hide all that money they took.
The missing money that should have been spent on the promises they made at each election .The missing money that should have been spent on Healthcare.The missing money that should have been spent on Daycare.Protecting our Country.
The missing billions that could have been spent on improving the Country that we all love.The missing money that could have been put to good use.

Dion was at the trough when the money went missing what did he know ???

[shimmydampner]

The only thing more annoying than hearing about global warming and climate change all the time is guys like cpl_atc constantly spouting off and whining about how annoying it is. And next time, reference for us where you're pulling those numbers out of so we can be sure they're not from the depths of your ass.

[cyyz]

And next time, reference for us where you're pulling those numbers out of so we can be sure they're not from the depths of your ass.

next time someone posts some theories on climate change and global warming instead of "theories" can they start to post refrences and precedences... I'm tired of their "what ifs and might happen and probably is occurings..."

[g5]

So what? China can burn all of their coal, and Canada can just turn the lights off. We can all park our cars and let the country descend into anarchy, I don't see what the problem is...


;P

[Hedley]

I know what the problem is - it was -22C here this morning, and as an added bonus, it was windy.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about global warming, but I'd sure appreciate at least 10C of local warming here right now. 15C would be better.

[Chantal]

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[Chantal]

The only thing i want to hear from the Lieberals is where did they hide all that money they took.
The missing money that should have been spent on the promises they made at each election .The missing money that should have been spent on Healthcare.The missing money that should have been spent on Daycare.Protecting our Country.
The missing billions that could have been spent on improving the Country that we all love.The missing money that could have been put to good use.

Dion was at the trough when the money went missing what did he know ???

From some old government documents which list grants and contribution programs funded from the Consolidated Revenue Fund;

Office of Learning technologies
Learning Initiatives Program
International Academic Mobility
Student Summer Job Action
and many more.

Do these sound familiar? Sound pretty strange to me. So with this tiny bit of knowledge we have, what can we learn?

[the_professor]

The Farmer`s Almanac is about as accurate as any other long term weather forecast, climate change forecasts included. Which is to say totally inaccurate.

Note that while most of the country has been unseasonably cold for about two weeks, the first three months of winter brought record setting warm temperatures to most of the country. So much for a `winter chill` 10 to 20 degrees below normal.

Long range forecasts are accurate less than 50% of the time, so you`re actually better off flipping a coin. Someone should remind the IPCC panel of that.

[swede]

The actual term "Global Warming" is a misnomer and in fact, it is a total crock. The term should be, "Global climatic chaos". The pathetic efforts of mankind to reverse this trend are like pissing against a cat 5 hurricane. I just laugh when i hear imbeciles like Gore go off on their social engineering diatribes, because that is all it is. As far as china's input to greenhouse gasses, i guess we should get off our fat cans and stop buying everything we use from bolts to buscuits from them.

[cyyz]

What did we do to correct the years? We added an extra month, then we added an extra day every 4 years...

Could it be possible winter comes later and stays later because the years are wrong...

Funny how all the "global warming" popped up during the 'heat wave' of december and then january came and all of a sudden +10c was a -30c.

Funny how they all quote "warmest winters" of all times when mel lastman sent home the snow plows in march, what happened, a big snow fall in april.

Funny how these two items aren't being looked at.

Our ozone is melting..... Umm, maybe the sun is getting hotter?

nope all wrong it's our new gas guzzling, polluting hybrids that do 100miles on a gallon. When in the 50s,60s,70s and 80's everyone was driving cadillac, crown royal type sudans that did 10 miles to the gallon. Some how all of a sudden everything just got worse, when we've stopped sticking freeon into fridges...

So in the 70's when gas consumption and pollution was at an all time high.
Freeon was in A/C's, freezers and appliances....

Today, it's all hybrids, freeon isn't used, and aerosol cans are shunned, we've all of sudden started to global warm... Coincidence, or conspiracy? I think these guys want us to kill ourselves... More like since we've reduced pollution the ozon has started to buckle....

[Dust Devil]

I think another thing people forget is that most scientists get their weather data from airports, and as urban sprawl takes place airports are slowly being swallowed into cities. No wonder there is a temp increase.

[corporate joe]

I think another thing people forget is that most scientists get their weather data from airports, and as urban sprawl takes place airports are slowly being swallowed into cities. No wonder there is a temp increase.

That is the dumbest thing I have heard in a while.

[corporate joe]

I know what the problem is - it was -22C here this morning, and as an added bonus, it was windy.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about global warming, but I'd sure appreciate at least 10C of local warming here right now. 15C would be better.

Actually, even though the temperatures around the world on average will increase, in some places they will decrease, as weather patterns are modified.



Oh, the irony.

[the_professor]

I know what the problem is - it was -22C here this morning, and as an added bonus, it was windy.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about global warming, but I'd sure appreciate at least 10C of local warming here right now. 15C would be better.

Actually, even though the temperatures around the world on average will increase, in some places they will decrease, as weather patterns are modified.



Oh, the irony.

If I'm reading that graph correctly, they're saying temps in the arctic are going to increase 11-15 degrees in the next 17-18 years? That's obviously total bullshit. Please don't tell me you believe that? Where does the Hadley Centre get its funding, from the Al Gore Movie Receipts trust fund?

[Chantal]

Whether or not, "Global warming" is true, it's time Humans cleaned up their act, and make serious changes, NOW. Some don't care because they won't be around and they believe the new generations should worry about it but thats not fair. Here's something interesting from a news story,

Who's wrecking the lake?


Percentage of phosphorous and nitrogen in Lake Winnipeg that comes from specific sources


City of Winnipeg: P-5%, N-4%
Americans: P-35%, N-21%
Saskatchewan and Alberta: P-5%, N-9%
Ontario: P-13%, N-21%
Other wastewater sources: P-4%, N-1%
Agriculture: P-15%, N-5%
Atmospheric deposits: P-6%, N-10%
Natural and undefined sources such as wildlife: P-17%, N-19%
Lake processes such as emissions from existing blue-green algae: N-10%

What can we do to fix it?


Some of the less technical recommendations by the Lake Winnipeg Stewardship Board:


Cities such as Winnipeg with nutrient abatement plans should get to work as quickly as possible on those plans.
All new homes and government offices should have low-flush toilets.
Manitobans should pay the true cost of water and sewer systems, which means everyone should be on a water meter.
Sewage lagoons should be big enough so there's never any emergency discharges. They should be designed so nutrient removal can occur.
Province-wide restrictions on cosmetic, phosphorous-based fertilizers should be explored.
Drainage from confined livestock areas should be directed to retention ponds, grassed buffer strips or man-made wetlands.
Livestock should be banned from winter feeding along waterways and discouraged from feeding along riverbanks in the summer.
Soil tests should be done more often.
A province-wide nutrient budget should be created to determine which areas already have soil saturated with nutrients and which don't. That should influence where future livestock operations are allowed.
A review of agricultural drainage is needed to determine where drainage occurs too quickly, washing manure and fertilizer away, and where it occurs too slowly, drowning fields.
There should be mandatory inspections of septic tanks and fields whenever a home is sold.
The province should demand regional wastewater treatment systems. Sewage lagoons should be converted to wastewater plants, especially in areas where many people live near a river.
Watershed management districts should be created along with a plan to improve nutrient exports, starting with the biggest contributors.
The province and Ottawa should continue to lobby North Dakota and Minnesota to clean up waterways that flow into Manitoba.
The province must invest in more research to better determine exactly where nutrients flow into the watershed how well different mitigation methods work.

[corporate joe]

I know what the problem is - it was -22C here this morning, and as an added bonus, it was windy.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about global warming, but I'd sure appreciate at least 10C of local warming here right now. 15C would be better.

Actually, even though the temperatures around the world on average will increase, in some places they will decrease, as weather patterns are modified.



Oh, the irony.

If I'm reading that graph correctly, they're saying temps in the arctic are going to increase 11-15 degrees in the next 17-18 years? That's obviously total bullshit. Please don't tell me you believe that? Where does the Hadley Centre get its funding, from the Al Gore Movie Receipts trust fund?

It's one model amongst many others. Will it be 15C? I do not know. Models are guesses. The fact in this however is that at some places temperatures go up, in other places they go down. As a general rule the poles get warmer much quicker than the rest of the earth.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761 ... rming.html

P.S.: It's so unanimous that's even in encyclopedias now.
(http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-90 ... al-warming)

[corporate joe]

Where does the Hadley Centre get its funding, from the Al Gore Movie Receipts trust fund?

Actually it comes from:

" Joint funding by the Department of the Environment and the UK Meteorological Office has allowed the creation of the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research"

http://www.vni.com/successes/met.html