Have you ever been stiffed for pay from a company?
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North American Air Training College/Famous Flyers Air Training academy/Great Western Air Charter. ( too many names maybe)
I quit before they hit the wall. They still owe me $347.56.
Some students are still owed thousands.
Thank goodness I resisted using my credit card to fill up the 414 on charters.
I quit before they hit the wall. They still owe me $347.56.
Some students are still owed thousands.
Thank goodness I resisted using my credit card to fill up the 414 on charters.
Me thinks the shorter list would be those companies(including flight schools) who do pay according to the required schedule of the Federal Labour Board.
Can anyone name two Canadian Flight Schools who follow the Labour Code?
O.K. How about two Charter Companies who pay for standby (as per Labour Code)?
How many of you have found out that your day off was yesterday because you didn't get called in for work?
It is about time we started standing up for our rights under the Canadian Labour Code.
They won't act unless we call them.
Can anyone name two Canadian Flight Schools who follow the Labour Code?
O.K. How about two Charter Companies who pay for standby (as per Labour Code)?
How many of you have found out that your day off was yesterday because you didn't get called in for work?
It is about time we started standing up for our rights under the Canadian Labour Code.
They won't act unless we call them.
Pilots get higher, SCUBA Divers do it deeper!
Speaking of the Canadian Labour Code, is there some sort of "Canadian Labour Code for Dummies" page somewhere? The Human Resources website is definitely not the most user-friendly I have seen over the years, and my researches on Google have not turned up anything worth mentionning.
Also, are there situations where aviation workers would be under the jurisdiction of their respective provincial labour codes? (ie: flight schools, bush operators remaining in one province, etc.) Where is the line drawn? (ie: flight schools with a charter side)
It would be a major disappointment that a complaint gets stuck in between two government bodies throwing the ball at each other.
Thanks in advance,
Louis
Also, are there situations where aviation workers would be under the jurisdiction of their respective provincial labour codes? (ie: flight schools, bush operators remaining in one province, etc.) Where is the line drawn? (ie: flight schools with a charter side)
It would be a major disappointment that a complaint gets stuck in between two government bodies throwing the ball at each other.
Thanks in advance,
Louis
Anything to do with Aviation is covered by the Federal Labour Code. (transportation industry)
Anytime you do work you are entitled to pay.
Did you ever pick up doughnuts for your passengers. Sure the Company payed for the Doughnuts, but did you get payed? Were you reembursed for the fuel you burned in your vehicle?
There is no agreement that exempts your employer from paying you for work you do or expenses you incur on their behalf.
Anytime you do work you are entitled to pay.
Did you ever pick up doughnuts for your passengers. Sure the Company payed for the Doughnuts, but did you get payed? Were you reembursed for the fuel you burned in your vehicle?
There is no agreement that exempts your employer from paying you for work you do or expenses you incur on their behalf.
Pilots get higher, SCUBA Divers do it deeper!
For your pax.. If the company didn't ask you to do it and you did it, that's your problem..OW wrote: Did you ever pick up doughnuts for your passengers. Sure the Company payed for the Doughnuts, but did you get payed? Were you reembursed for the fuel you burned in your vehicle?
There is no agreement that exempts your employer from paying you for work you do or expenses you incur on their behalf.
If you 'volunteer' to do it, you've done just that 'volunteered'(as in pro-bono)
If you get yourself a coffee while you're picking up those doughnuts you've stolen company time, seeing as your task was to get the pax their meals not your own, so you're a thief and as such can be terminated.
Whenever someone is on call you're not working and are not on the company clock, when a call comes in you're working...
Minimum wage, again you want to change your wages from $250/hr to $6.45/hr?
Quit.. Some other people want your AC slots..
Me thinks LT is a manager or owner of an operation too cheap to read and comply with the Labour Code.
If you decide on your own to pick up doughnuts for your passengers, you are a very generous underpayed pilot.
If the company wants someone to pick up doughnuts and you "volunteer" you are performing a task for the company and are entitled to remuneration.
If you get yourself a coffee while picking up those doughnuts and pay for that coffee with your own money, while being "payed by your employer" but it does not take any extra time and the company is paying for the use of your vehicle, you have not stolen anything from anybody. I'd like to see the company argue that one in front of a labour board review.
If I am expected to be available at the beck and call of my employer then I am not on "my own time" and therefore am entitled to remuneration for the restriction in my "freedom".
Someone (Mr LT) needs to read the labour code.
If you think you don't have to pay someone for services just because the other cheap operators don't, you are wrong.
The only thing you have going for you is the large number of potential "employees" who have so little courage and self respect as to continue to work for you for nothing.
One phone call to the labour board about your "employer" not paying for your services and action will take place.
Stop being such chickens. The purpose of the Labour legislation is to protect you from the LT's of this country. Pick up the phone and make your profession a better place to work.
Stop complaining about what your employer won't do for you and do something for yourself.
Your employer won't know who called until it is proven that he has wronged you.
You spend over thirty thousand dollars to get trained for these jobs and then you don't make them pay.
Wake up!
If you decide on your own to pick up doughnuts for your passengers, you are a very generous underpayed pilot.
If the company wants someone to pick up doughnuts and you "volunteer" you are performing a task for the company and are entitled to remuneration.
If you get yourself a coffee while picking up those doughnuts and pay for that coffee with your own money, while being "payed by your employer" but it does not take any extra time and the company is paying for the use of your vehicle, you have not stolen anything from anybody. I'd like to see the company argue that one in front of a labour board review.
If I am expected to be available at the beck and call of my employer then I am not on "my own time" and therefore am entitled to remuneration for the restriction in my "freedom".
Someone (Mr LT) needs to read the labour code.
If you think you don't have to pay someone for services just because the other cheap operators don't, you are wrong.
The only thing you have going for you is the large number of potential "employees" who have so little courage and self respect as to continue to work for you for nothing.
One phone call to the labour board about your "employer" not paying for your services and action will take place.
Stop being such chickens. The purpose of the Labour legislation is to protect you from the LT's of this country. Pick up the phone and make your profession a better place to work.
Stop complaining about what your employer won't do for you and do something for yourself.
Your employer won't know who called until it is proven that he has wronged you.
You spend over thirty thousand dollars to get trained for these jobs and then you don't make them pay.
Wake up!
Pilots get higher, SCUBA Divers do it deeper!
Here y'all go, Canada Labour Code, partII: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/asp/gateway.asp? ... tml&hs=oxs
part I:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/asp/gateway.asp? ... tml&hs=czc
part I:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/asp/gateway.asp? ... tml&hs=czc
