CMA Captain Interviews in YYC next week

Anti-Ice · Post by **Anti-Ice** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:50 pm

Apparently CMA is interviewing next week in Calgary...

Anybody know what to expect?

SKYTRAILS · Post by **SKYTRAILS** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:06 pm

A Bond.

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:42 pm

SKYTRAILS wrote:A Bond.

lol

bumffs · Post by **bumffs** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:01 pm

sprucemonkey · Post by **sprucemonkey** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:20 am

At least for 3 years........then you're on @ westjet grabbing your ankles for another 2 years.....

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:18 am

bumffs Wow not a CMA fan?
btw they hire 1000tt min for F/Os (& the occasional 2-3 year rampy)
so your F/O won't be a complete new pilot

bumffs · Post by **bumffs** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:40 am

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:55 am

in CYCD i was talking to one of their Captains who was freaking at the level of pilot he was being given to fly with

When did CMA operate into YCD? Pretty unprofessional to bash your co-workers to a stranger.

CMA had a only hiring FO's policy straight out of some school in Castlegar

They shoulda chose Seneca I guess?

I guess they must learned the hard way have changing the 200 hours hiring policy if you are saying that they now want 1000 hours

The hiring policy that was in place before their current one was 500TT 250PIC IATRA for cojo... How long ago were they hiring 250 hr guys? Other than for the ramp!

I dunno - you seem pretty jaded and I call BS on most of your post.
I will agree with you though - the pay is poor...

And anyone interviewing anywhere ought to bring up wage, it just shows you lack self worth if you don't.

note-edited because I forgot I was going to try to be more positive... sorry.

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:01 pm

altiplano How long ago did they have that 500tt mins?
.../me am half expecting them & a few others to soon drop their mins (look'n at the way the industry is going)

Its interesting when you see people advertizing for jobs flying small twins with Mins higher then the Major airlines....not that CMA has small twins...or that the majors accualy are highering people with hours even close to those mins..........except maybe Jazz

bumffs · Post by **bumffs** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:30 pm

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:19 pm

Justwannafly wrote:altiplano How long ago did they have that 500tt mins?

Those were the published minimums posted on their website before they put what is on now. I'd say less than a year ago they had the 500hr thing up... And going back for at least a 3-4 years or more... But I could be a bit off on that...

Anyway - yeah - you'd expect mins to come down the way things are going but I still think 1000 hrs is reasonable for 1900 cojo... especially since they need someone upgradable in the not too distant future as guys move up...

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:25 pm

bumffs -

Sorry I questioned you...

note-edited because I forgot I was going to try to be more positive... sorry.

Justwannafly · Post by **Justwannafly** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:04 pm

well now they are all glass so I would hope their position reports are more accurate....oh & as for them funny hats......wish I had one

lol

bumffs · Post by **bumffs** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:22 pm

dangerous · Post by **dangerous** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:49 pm

A few moons ago I worked the ramp and got to know some CMA pilots. At that time I heard the youngest FO was 19 and the youngest Capt was 23. No idea how it was flying with guys so inexperienced, but it sure made me wonder what the hell I was doing on the ramp.

Dockjock · Post by **Dockjock** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:26 pm

I worked at CMA for 3 years and while I don't particularly have an interest in sticking up for the ownership per se, I will say that the pilots there are just friggin normal guys and girls. Some good pilots, some bad pilots.

ps. the hat hasn't been part of the uniform for about 2 years...get over it!
pps. airline hat or dorky navy blue jumpsuit with bars on the outside, you don't look like a fighter pilot-- get over it!

bumffs · Post by **bumffs** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:06 am

CCR · Post by **CCR** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:53 am

I worked at CMA from September 97 till Sept 99 as a Captain. I worked with those 300 hour pilots and I have to say they were for the most part competent pilots who just needed proper guidance and leadership. Apparently a few Captains of that era were unable to provide neither. It wasn't the inexperienced F/o's that were the problem there it was a few of the "experienced" Captains who held the highest risk to the operation. Fortunately, those quacks are still operating at that industry level while those "pain-in-the-ass" F/o's are now at AC or WJA. HMMM, I wonder where that Captain ended up?

Swamp Donkey · Post by **Swamp Donkey** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:38 pm

Justwannafly wrote:Its interesting when you see people advertizing for jobs flying small twins with Mins higher then the Major airlines....not that CMA has small twins...or that the majors accualy are highering people with hours even close to those mins..........except maybe Jazz

Well, that's probably because it takes a little more experience and talent to operate a transport category aircraft (ie 1900) into unimproved airstrips, than it does to operate a Dash or CRJ into a 10000 foot runway....

Dockjock · Post by **Dockjock** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:09 pm

huh? Its from Meet the Parents. Oh, and, you're not in it pal.

CMA is the Brett Hull of the airline industry. If he's not on your team, you hate him. If he is, you realize he serves a needed purpose, even though you still think he's a jerk.

Amateur Turbines · Post by **Amateur Turbines** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:36 pm

I've been at CMA for a while now. I can honestly say that the 250 hour pilots that we have flying with us are for the most part alot easier to fly with than say an effo with 2 years and ready for that upgrade and also ready to show you how ammmazzing they are and how ammmazzing you aren't. I also think that CMA does offer people things that they don't get elswhere at this level. SCHEDULE. The last 2 years have been hard days but still we have a schedule. CMA says right from date of hire this is a stepping stone company they are expecting you to leave to one of the majors within 2-3 years so of course the pay sucks. If they wanted us to stay then the pay would be higher. CMA has lost over 60 pilots to the majors in the last 18 months. Thats alot of training my friend and BTW we are hiring.

Dockjock · Post by **Dockjock** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:25 am

I should continue the Brett Hull analogy to say that once you see him play close up you realize he's pretty damn good and a lot of the things he says that while annoying, are actually correct.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:06 pm

Justwannafly wrote:bumffs Wow not a CMA fan?
btw they hire 1000tt min for F/Os (& the occasional 2-3 year rampy)
so your F/O won't be a complete new pilot

And exactly what kind of 1000hr pilot is going to take $22,000/yr to sit right seat??? From what I hear, the heyday of CMA (late 90's) is well and truly over, sounds like a shit show these days.

STL

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:45 pm

Man I hate Brett Hull...

Feckin kent...

Unusual Attitude · Post by **Unusual Attitude** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:44 pm

Hey DJ, love the Brett Hull analogy; it's perfect.
I don't think anyone gets a job at CMA without knowing what they're getting themselves into (or anyone who reads the posts on AVCANADA anyway). You go there, do the best job you can, then hopefully move on to the majors. Pretty simple.