I think I just figured out what SOCS means. But that's a wild guess.
Back to the task at hand.
The Conservatives can't dump the gun registry because the NDP (used to be my party) and the Bloc and the Liberanos will stop that dead.
One hope might be Montague convincing the Supreme Court to declare it unconstitutional.
Then we're down to the Conservatives winning a majority in the next election.
If not look to disarming the law-abiding folks, and say hello to the criminal element.
The one comforting fact is that the SOCS will be bearing the brunt of this legislation.
I would like to suggest that any person in Toronto whos house is broken into by armed thugs, give them the peace symbol and explain that you voted Liberano so you are one of them and please leave us alone.
Up North we are going to blow the shit out of them and leave them for the bears and wolves to clean up.
With love to all down south, you sided with the criminals, you keep them down there.
We mean this in the nicest way possible.
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C'mon Cat, I know you're smarter than this.Cat Driver wrote:You obviously can not grasp a simple fact." It just won't fly with non-gun owners (who greatly outnumber you guys by the way) because they will pass a law that will take away your guns if they feel threatened or in any kind of danger by having them around. Stop crying about your freedoms because nobody listens to it. "
Take away the guns and we can just go buy more on the black market.
What is it about that you find so hard to understand?
Speeding is against the law, yet people speed
theft is against the law, yet people steal.
Murder is against the law, yet people kill.
Make guns illegal, and people will still get guns.
Do you really think people don't know this? Does that mean we shouldn't pass laws because we think people will just break the law anyway?
This is what I mean by gun advocates being immature (again, not all gun advocates). Crying about your "rights" and "freedoms" being violated means absolutely nothing to anyone but the gun advocates and won't help you in any way. Saying that the criminals will still have guns is like crying "Well Billy next door gets to keep his guns" when your Mom took yours away. That is how it is percieved by the rest of us so maybe you can see why it appears slightly juvenile.
Gun advocates are in public perception and image battle here and don't seem to know it, all they can do is quote recycled NRA arguments that mean nothing up here in Canada. This is hard for you folks to hear I know, but nobody cares about your supposed rights to have weapons. It means nothing if people feel less safe with those things around.
What you should be doing is making every effort to differenciate yourself from the criminals and irresponsible types who people really don't want to have guns. Believe me when I say the vast majority of us don't care if you use a gun to kill gophers or go hunting. But we want some kind of control on guns to make us feel safe. So instead of fighting the gun registration, which only makes you seem like you have something to hide, you should be saying "Hell yeah, I'd be happy to register every gun I've got because I am a law abiding citizen". Now that would give everyone a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling about the whole thing and your problem would be mostly solved. Stop getting defensive about this issue and actually convince people you are responsible adults. Instead of fighting Canadians concerns about firearm why don't you address it instead? You might find you'll have more success.
For NWONT: I said it before kid, don't give up your day job.
1) I'm at a bit mystified here. Can anyone name ONE thing that Canadians have in common with Switzerland and why the comparison with them about "diddley"? Why not also include South Africa, Saipan or Chile perhaps? Hell, I can get closer to home than that........how about comparing Nova Scotians to Manitobans and both of their feelings towards weapons and the condition of the their highways. Sorry, but we are the largest country on earth now and you couldn't get agreement on many subjects between the people of Clarinville, NFLD and Lloydminister, SK. Try it with the firearms issue and you'll quickly understand that they differ in their stands on this subject because their histories are completely different.
2) Please, please, please, get the idea out of your heads that by passing a law in the Parliament of Canada OR your Provincial Legislatures, that the majority of firearms can be made to disappear from the Canadian scene. Absolutely and totally impossible. Canada does not have the manpower to enforce such an idea even if they combined the manpower of all the police forces and the Canadian Armed Forces. Hell, if you put both sets of manpower together they couldn't rid the Province of Manitoba of guns.
2) Please, please, please, get the idea out of your heads that by passing a law in the Parliament of Canada OR your Provincial Legislatures, that the majority of firearms can be made to disappear from the Canadian scene. Absolutely and totally impossible. Canada does not have the manpower to enforce such an idea even if they combined the manpower of all the police forces and the Canadian Armed Forces. Hell, if you put both sets of manpower together they couldn't rid the Province of Manitoba of guns.
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Going back to the start of this thread:
I thought 200hrWonder was making sense until I came upon the statement that "I think that protection is not a reason for owning a gun".
I think that foremost around these parts is that protection is the main reason for owning a gun.
200hrwonder must be a city boy. Swat team 5 minutes away. Take a look at the map of Canada. It's a big country and not entirely tamed yet.
We still have to teach the city people some facts of life.
I thought 200hrWonder was making sense until I came upon the statement that "I think that protection is not a reason for owning a gun".
I think that foremost around these parts is that protection is the main reason for owning a gun.
200hrwonder must be a city boy. Swat team 5 minutes away. Take a look at the map of Canada. It's a big country and not entirely tamed yet.
We still have to teach the city people some facts of life.
Rocky,
Gun owners aren't mad at the simple idea of registering a FIREARM (we do not refer to them as weapons, nor do we use them that way). We are angry that interest groups are pushing for more arbitrary restrictions and the government plans to use the registry as a means to enforce them. Basically it saying, "Tell us what you've got, so we can come take it away when we're ready"
Unfortunately gun owners are losing the PR battle. Not because they did anything wrong, but the extremely left wing media likes to go on the air, hold up a SEMI AUTOMATIC AR-15, point out how scary it looks, call it an "assault rifle", and ask "Is this what we need for hunting deer!!??" The truth is that gun is no more harmful than any other. It is used as a tool, as are many others, to spread misinformation to the general public, and play upon their fears. It's also called "lying"
I'm not a crazy right winger, but I've never seen a reporter follow a gun owner around and show us just how safety concious the average owner is. Probably because it doesn't make good news. Scary is what works for them, not necessarily the truth. Watched CNN lately?
Gun owners are taking the high road and using facts and information to support their arguments. Anti-gun lobbiests are using fear tactics and their friendly media to cause widespread histeria.
Who's being rational and mature?
Gun owners aren't mad at the simple idea of registering a FIREARM (we do not refer to them as weapons, nor do we use them that way). We are angry that interest groups are pushing for more arbitrary restrictions and the government plans to use the registry as a means to enforce them. Basically it saying, "Tell us what you've got, so we can come take it away when we're ready"
Unfortunately gun owners are losing the PR battle. Not because they did anything wrong, but the extremely left wing media likes to go on the air, hold up a SEMI AUTOMATIC AR-15, point out how scary it looks, call it an "assault rifle", and ask "Is this what we need for hunting deer!!??" The truth is that gun is no more harmful than any other. It is used as a tool, as are many others, to spread misinformation to the general public, and play upon their fears. It's also called "lying"
I'm not a crazy right winger, but I've never seen a reporter follow a gun owner around and show us just how safety concious the average owner is. Probably because it doesn't make good news. Scary is what works for them, not necessarily the truth. Watched CNN lately?
Gun owners are taking the high road and using facts and information to support their arguments. Anti-gun lobbiests are using fear tactics and their friendly media to cause widespread histeria.
Who's being rational and mature?
Spooky,
I think 200hr was talking about protection from other people. If you're in the north, for sure, carry a gun so you can blast the Griz that's eyeing you up for lunch cuz you probably won't "talk" your way out of it.
I don't really think we need guns for protection from people either. That blurs the lines a little too much in our case. For target shooting/hunting, that's cool with most people. But when you start using guns to defend yourself, they are almost always lethal. More people will be shot every year, some of them innocent bystanders or family members.
A very unfortunate situation all around...
I think 200hr was talking about protection from other people. If you're in the north, for sure, carry a gun so you can blast the Griz that's eyeing you up for lunch cuz you probably won't "talk" your way out of it.
I don't really think we need guns for protection from people either. That blurs the lines a little too much in our case. For target shooting/hunting, that's cool with most people. But when you start using guns to defend yourself, they are almost always lethal. More people will be shot every year, some of them innocent bystanders or family members.
A very unfortunate situation all around...
We seem to be so naive that we think gun registration is just that, registration. But if you open your eyes, you'll see it also means seizure of your property. If you miss a deadline in registering your previously legal property it is forfeited, gone forever.
Why was it ok a day ago and now contraband?
I can kill more people in one minute in downtown Toronto with my car than I can with an AK-47 in the same period. Cars are the deadliest weapon on earth.
Registering cars does not make them safe. Registering guns does not make them safe. Law-abiding citizens make them safe.
And non-law-abiding people make them dangerous.
Put a rifle against a car and ask some people which is more dangerous?
It's the car, check the statistics.
Get your head out of your ass and forget about the gun. You're more likely to be killed in a motor vehicle accident.
I registered both my car and my gun. You're safer with me behind my rifle than behind my wheel. And I'm not alone in that, most of my countrymen fall into that category.
There, I've said it and I await your rebuttal. This should be good.
Why was it ok a day ago and now contraband?
I can kill more people in one minute in downtown Toronto with my car than I can with an AK-47 in the same period. Cars are the deadliest weapon on earth.
Registering cars does not make them safe. Registering guns does not make them safe. Law-abiding citizens make them safe.
And non-law-abiding people make them dangerous.
Put a rifle against a car and ask some people which is more dangerous?
It's the car, check the statistics.
Get your head out of your ass and forget about the gun. You're more likely to be killed in a motor vehicle accident.
I registered both my car and my gun. You're safer with me behind my rifle than behind my wheel. And I'm not alone in that, most of my countrymen fall into that category.
There, I've said it and I await your rebuttal. This should be good.
Canada does not have the manpower to enforce such an idea even if they combined the manpower of all the police forces and the Canadian Armed Forces.
Well said LH, but they do have enough manpower to confiscate my guns and yours and a few hundred others.
You could say, someone else's obituary is just another person, but mine is kinda personal. To me that is.
Well said LH, but they do have enough manpower to confiscate my guns and yours and a few hundred others.
You could say, someone else's obituary is just another person, but mine is kinda personal. To me that is.
From everything I've read here Skipper, gun owners are very mad about registering their firearms. And you might not refer to them as weapons, but they are weapons and you do use them that way, just not on people.Skipper wrote:Rocky,
Gun owners aren't mad at the simple idea of registering a FIREARM (we do not refer to them as weapons, nor do we use them that way). We are angry that interest groups are pushing for more arbitrary restrictions and the government plans to use the registry as a means to enforce them. Basically it saying, "Tell us what you've got, so we can come take it away when we're ready"
You are absolutely correct that you're losing the PR war, and you're not going to win it by openly fighting against gun control. You have to work with it somehow and make people comfortable with you, the responsible gun owners having your firearms. You should be proving to the people of Canada that there is no need to make your firearms illegal. Ranting about your rights and freedoms just won't do it. It might work for the NRA in the States, but not up here. We're different.
spooky ----- how do the police come and confiscate my long rifles if they don't know I have long rifles or not? Explain please. Be extremely careful with this issue as the police would tell you they have to be. I speak with some knowledge on this because I was a member of the police at one time. "Yes" I realize the new powers in that regard that the police have , but how do you confiscate if you fdon't have the manpower to confiscate. Do you have any idea how many Members the RCMP are under-manned in Manitoba?.......try 400 personnel. How about BC then?........700 personnel. So what are you going to confiscate if you don't have the bodies to do it? There's also the small issue of vehicles, trucks and vans to get people around and carry the confiscated weapons. See, you have an interesting problem when behind RCMP HQ in Edmonton. AB you can find 13 cruiser cars that have been iin "fender-benders", have blown engines or transmissions and the Force doesn't have enough money in the budget to get them repaired and roadworthy again.How long have they been there behind HQ?.....the vast majority as long as 15 months........AND that's just Alberta.
It's real easy when you don't know all the details, to just make all manner of plans to do this and that ........until reality hits you in the face and then the majority of your wonderful and well-meaning plans go down the toilet. It sometimes compares to an average household budget in many ways.
So "No" there will be no confiscation of weapons in my household or yours and even seeing a police car go down my street is a seldom seen sight. You can beat this subject to death with a hammer if you like, but the rules mean little because they don't have the manpower to enforce them. It's plain old basic math sir.
It's real easy when you don't know all the details, to just make all manner of plans to do this and that ........until reality hits you in the face and then the majority of your wonderful and well-meaning plans go down the toilet. It sometimes compares to an average household budget in many ways.
So "No" there will be no confiscation of weapons in my household or yours and even seeing a police car go down my street is a seldom seen sight. You can beat this subject to death with a hammer if you like, but the rules mean little because they don't have the manpower to enforce them. It's plain old basic math sir.
Its very simple LH. You will recieve a letter in the mail advising you that you have illegal firearms in your possession and to bring them in or you are in contavention of such in such law. It has already happened in my town to a WW2 vet that didn't renew his licence. A lawman should know this. IT HAS HAPPENED.
NWONT ------that's fine sir, but there's a problem with all that. What about a family who have as many as 5-7 rifles in the home and they have all been passed-down from fathers, uncles and grandfathers. There is no record of this family having any weapons whatsoever nor has the local RCMP any record of the the family contravening any law since the Detachment was established there in 1901. I've just spoken for a vast majority of rural western Canada.
Now the letter comes from the government and promptly gets filed in "the round file" by the kitchen counter. The neighbour down the road is doing the same and 50 miles away they are also doing the same. In this area that measures 150 miles X 500 miles there are 3 Native Reserves, parts of two major western Canadian Lakes to be patrolled and a total rural population of 50,000 people. To patrol this area and enforce a host of Federal Provincial Laws, Acts and Statutes there exists one RCMP Detachment with 10 Members.......one of whom must stay at Detachment at all times. Now, let say that you know that all kinds of farms and ranches have long guns stashed away in various locales on their farm or ranch. How do you propose that these Members commence their searches AND also carry-on with their highway patrols, other criminal investigations, etc. You have made this law that you want enforced and you have now sent out a letter from Ottawa or wherever stating that you expect folks to turn over all their weapons or they are in contravention of a serious law. Now how do you suggest that this problem be solved? The letter with the government of Canada postal stamp on it didn't impress anyone and so how do you fix this problem?
Sorry NWONT, but this is a part of the country where stumbling onto the odd "Still" isn't unknown at all, as any Member of the RCMP can attest to with a smirk or hearty laugh. The trails that bootleggers and smugglers used to go back and forth between the area south of Brandon and North Dakota are still visible to this day and many can show them to you. The owner and founder of one of our famous Canadian distilleries began his "booze" career in this area doing just that and that man's name was many years later a respected Charles Bronfmann. Once again, a law was enacted and expected to be enforced, but the Feds didn't have the manpower to make it valid. Do not confuse these folks with the folks from "Deliverance" either because that would be another uninformed mistake.
Now the letter comes from the government and promptly gets filed in "the round file" by the kitchen counter. The neighbour down the road is doing the same and 50 miles away they are also doing the same. In this area that measures 150 miles X 500 miles there are 3 Native Reserves, parts of two major western Canadian Lakes to be patrolled and a total rural population of 50,000 people. To patrol this area and enforce a host of Federal Provincial Laws, Acts and Statutes there exists one RCMP Detachment with 10 Members.......one of whom must stay at Detachment at all times. Now, let say that you know that all kinds of farms and ranches have long guns stashed away in various locales on their farm or ranch. How do you propose that these Members commence their searches AND also carry-on with their highway patrols, other criminal investigations, etc. You have made this law that you want enforced and you have now sent out a letter from Ottawa or wherever stating that you expect folks to turn over all their weapons or they are in contravention of a serious law. Now how do you suggest that this problem be solved? The letter with the government of Canada postal stamp on it didn't impress anyone and so how do you fix this problem?
Sorry NWONT, but this is a part of the country where stumbling onto the odd "Still" isn't unknown at all, as any Member of the RCMP can attest to with a smirk or hearty laugh. The trails that bootleggers and smugglers used to go back and forth between the area south of Brandon and North Dakota are still visible to this day and many can show them to you. The owner and founder of one of our famous Canadian distilleries began his "booze" career in this area doing just that and that man's name was many years later a respected Charles Bronfmann. Once again, a law was enacted and expected to be enforced, but the Feds didn't have the manpower to make it valid. Do not confuse these folks with the folks from "Deliverance" either because that would be another uninformed mistake.
LH, that brings us right back to square one. Do you stand up for yourself and not cave in to this Liberal bullshit, or do you register your firearms? Many did not register, and I respect them all. I held out as long as I could , then caved in. The reason being, a police officer in the family and if charged with having an unregistered firearm, I would have nothing but trouble try to travel across any border or get through any airport. I am not proud that I obeyed my government but unlike heros like Bruce Montague, I was not prepared to sacrifice my life for a bunch of people that would never understand or appreciate what I had done. That is why I will stand in support of S. Harper in the next election as I do believe he will live up to his promise when he has a majority gov. With an asshole like S. Dion, as an opponent, I believe he will have it.That family with 5-7 rifles that has never broken a law is now, thanks to the Liberals all felons. In our area the police were stopping hunters returning from a days hunting and confiscating unregistered firearms. For a few years all firearms owners stood against this tyranny and the law was useless. The Liberals were begging people to comply, dropping all fees, and at one point they were going to pay you to register. As I mentioned before, the war vet who put himself in harms way to fight for everyones rights and freedoms lost his own to this corrupt Liberal government. At least we got rid of those bastards, now we must repair the damage they have caused.
Just saying, LH, that the government doesn't have the manpower to seize all the weapons. But it does have enough manpower to annoy a few of us, as they did with Montague.
And what guns are legal now could be illegal tomorrow, or just after an election.
If you think compensation is not so bad, consider that they're going to buy your gun with your tax money.
But then Anne said this law had nothing to do with seizure of property.
No men in black were going to come for your firearm.
But she's just another Lieberal.
Or did she mean that it's men in blue that would be coming for your firearm?
And what guns are legal now could be illegal tomorrow, or just after an election.
If you think compensation is not so bad, consider that they're going to buy your gun with your tax money.
But then Anne said this law had nothing to do with seizure of property.
No men in black were going to come for your firearm.
But she's just another Lieberal.
Or did she mean that it's men in blue that would be coming for your firearm?
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LH, you are right regarding a man power issue in some areas, but that does not mean respondsible firearms owners will choose to become criminals and keep their firearms. The law is the law, whether I agree or not I must follow it. So I will voice my concern and fight the anti-gun groups and governments by stating my opinion and trying to change peoples outlook on firearms.
I heard about some poor sucker in Victoria who had a massive gun collection that he had been working on all his life. The police got him and confiscated the lot and now he's up on charges. Poor bugger. All because of some knee-jerk Liberal dork who thought that guns were a problem in this country so he went out and made them a problem.
Liberal theft and arrogance. Let's all vote for them again!
Liberal theft and arrogance. Let's all vote for them again!
"What's it doing now?"
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
That situation is discussed at this site in more "detail"...xsbank wrote:I heard about some poor sucker in Victoria who had a massive gun collection that he had been working on all his life. The police got him and confiscated the lot and now he's up on charges. Poor bugger.
More RCMP Terrorism
Prohibited weapons among 662 guns: AK-47s, Uzis, shotguns and semi-automatic pistols seized in Victoria house
That's the guy! I sure feel a lot safer with all those 'dangerous weapons' now in the hands of the police. Better lock this guy up coz collectors are the most feared sector in our society, right up there with the Hells and the Montreal Mafia (or the Persians? or the Indians? or the Vietnamese gangs?)
Don't you feel like you're in an episode of the Three Stooges? I guess if he ever went berserk (at something the government is doing!) he could probably have managed to use at least two of them at once.
Don't you feel like you're in an episode of the Three Stooges? I guess if he ever went berserk (at something the government is doing!) he could probably have managed to use at least two of them at once.
"What's it doing now?"
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
"Fly low and slow and throttle back in the turns."
Well, I'm sorry to report to all you folks that there are tons of folks out my way who have chosen to be felons then and you or the government can call them whatever you like, BUT their guns are hidden. Also, the vast majority of farms.ranches have AT LEAST 4 longarms of some description. Also.......want to really rile these poeple up? Tell them that the wepon that granddad passed down to their father and was in turn passed-down to them, cannot be passed-on to their son. THAT will generate a middle digit pointed in the direction of Ottawa.
There is constant smiling hereabouts whenever some unknowing person states..."Well whenever those fools go hunting, they run the risk of having all their wepons confiscated when stopped by the police and with the resultant criminal record they won't be able to go shopping down in their beloved Fargo, ND Malls on the weekends anymore". Sorry, but when you've been hunting on your own peoperty since time immemorium, why would you get caught with rifles/shotguns on a Provincial highway or the TranCanada?" These people aren't morphodites, with their knuckles dragging on the ground when they stand erect........their fathers and grandfathers did similar actions like this once before.......remember? So I can personally attest to the fact that there are a massive amount of "criminals" who have been generated in western Canada by the Federal government over this. This has been known by various RCMP Detachments a lonnnnng time ago and they have advised the Solicitor General of this through internal documents. As is normal, this information has been totally ignored if it did not complement, validate or support present government policy. There is more information not being told to the Canadian population over this subject than one could load in a 3 Ton stake truck. "Toe the Party line" on this subject or your contribution of information will get "lost" or "mislaid" somehow when it reaches Ottawa.
Confiscation is possible if the fact that a person owns a firearm(s) is known about in some particular way. Otherwise, if no paper record exists of anything to do with firearms regarding a given farmer or rancher.....all you can do is try to "pop-in" unexpectedly to find something. Firstly, there's no popping-in "unexpectedly" by police in rural weatern Canada. Before they clear town, the word is out that they are "on the prowl" in a certain area and to look-out. I've chased after "Stills" with the RCMP Alcohol Squad and you're fighting a loosing cause on that issue also because of that reason. Also a factor is that it's extremely difficult to get annoyed at these good folks if you live amongst them and happen to agree with them in a way, BUT damnit you gotta do your job.
So I understand your reasoning, but neither you, Ottawa or the police can use that reasoning outside of urban or more populated settings because it doesn't work and the people don't tremble at the mention of some particular law that they consider totally and absolutely unfair and punitive. None of them had anything at all to do with ever murdering anybody, including female college students. If they had their way, anybody that did so would spend the rest of their natural life in prison and any other person misusing a firearm would pay a very severe penalty and possibly have ALL weapons taken away from them forever. Until Ottawa gets some similar "teeth" in their penalties for firearm misusage, making new laws against the above folks ain't going anywhere.
There is constant smiling hereabouts whenever some unknowing person states..."Well whenever those fools go hunting, they run the risk of having all their wepons confiscated when stopped by the police and with the resultant criminal record they won't be able to go shopping down in their beloved Fargo, ND Malls on the weekends anymore". Sorry, but when you've been hunting on your own peoperty since time immemorium, why would you get caught with rifles/shotguns on a Provincial highway or the TranCanada?" These people aren't morphodites, with their knuckles dragging on the ground when they stand erect........their fathers and grandfathers did similar actions like this once before.......remember? So I can personally attest to the fact that there are a massive amount of "criminals" who have been generated in western Canada by the Federal government over this. This has been known by various RCMP Detachments a lonnnnng time ago and they have advised the Solicitor General of this through internal documents. As is normal, this information has been totally ignored if it did not complement, validate or support present government policy. There is more information not being told to the Canadian population over this subject than one could load in a 3 Ton stake truck. "Toe the Party line" on this subject or your contribution of information will get "lost" or "mislaid" somehow when it reaches Ottawa.
Confiscation is possible if the fact that a person owns a firearm(s) is known about in some particular way. Otherwise, if no paper record exists of anything to do with firearms regarding a given farmer or rancher.....all you can do is try to "pop-in" unexpectedly to find something. Firstly, there's no popping-in "unexpectedly" by police in rural weatern Canada. Before they clear town, the word is out that they are "on the prowl" in a certain area and to look-out. I've chased after "Stills" with the RCMP Alcohol Squad and you're fighting a loosing cause on that issue also because of that reason. Also a factor is that it's extremely difficult to get annoyed at these good folks if you live amongst them and happen to agree with them in a way, BUT damnit you gotta do your job.
So I understand your reasoning, but neither you, Ottawa or the police can use that reasoning outside of urban or more populated settings because it doesn't work and the people don't tremble at the mention of some particular law that they consider totally and absolutely unfair and punitive. None of them had anything at all to do with ever murdering anybody, including female college students. If they had their way, anybody that did so would spend the rest of their natural life in prison and any other person misusing a firearm would pay a very severe penalty and possibly have ALL weapons taken away from them forever. Until Ottawa gets some similar "teeth" in their penalties for firearm misusage, making new laws against the above folks ain't going anywhere.
Well, I am pretty partial to shoulder launched SAM missiles. I think they're cool. The fact they are illegal shouldn't stop me should it? After all, I'm just a collector. I'm not actually gonna shoot anybody with it.xsbank wrote:That's the guy! I sure feel a lot safer with all those 'dangerous weapons' now in the hands of the police. Better lock this guy up coz collectors are the most feared sector in our society, right up there with the Hells and the Montreal Mafia (or the Persians? or the Indians? or the Vietnamese gangs?)
Don't you feel like you're in an episode of the Three Stooges? I guess if he ever went berserk (at something the government is doing!) he could probably have managed to use at least two of them at once.
Help me out here xsbank. where can I get some?
xsbank ------ from a very long time ago, anyone wanting to collect weapons such as the chap in Victoria were required to apply for a special license as a "Collector". With that license and proper safe-keeping procedures they were allowed to enjoy their hobby. That sir, is EXACTLY the way is should be and that's got nothing to do with what Party controls the reins in Ottawa. I personally don't give a sweet "diddley" how long he had been putting his collection together, if he didn't have a "Collector" designation.
Whatever you do, don't compare, confuse or mix someone like that Victoria idiot with an average long gun owner in Canada. There's a big difference between scratching your ass and tearing the Hell out of it. Next thing some idiot will be protesting the fact that he ain't allowed to add to his collection of shoulder-held A.I.M. missiles.......and that he should be because his next door neighbour owns a .410 shotgun. Give me a F'ing break!
Whatever you do, don't compare, confuse or mix someone like that Victoria idiot with an average long gun owner in Canada. There's a big difference between scratching your ass and tearing the Hell out of it. Next thing some idiot will be protesting the fact that he ain't allowed to add to his collection of shoulder-held A.I.M. missiles.......and that he should be because his next door neighbour owns a .410 shotgun. Give me a F'ing break!
