Boy, she musta really pissed off this cop:
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/new ... c4&k=87106
You Don't F_ck Around with a GA State Trooper
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Vector2ILS
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If that's the case then I'm going to Georgia to run stop signs. Papa need a new set of wheelsVector2ILS wrote:Wow! I'll keep that in mind the next time I am driving in the states. Maybe she can sue the Canadian government for not protecting her from that torture and get 10 million bucks...
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As far as I know, speeding and running a stop sign IS a crime! But I do agree thats a harsh way to be dealt with."I don't think it's a very humane way to treat someone who had not committed a crime, or even been accused of committing a crime,"
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Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. I dont care, Im still free. You cant take the Sky from me
Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. I dont care, Im still free. You cant take the Sky from me
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Here's the link to their state tourist web site. It takes all of 60 seconds to let em know you won't ever be visiting.
Here's the link to their state tourist web site. It takes all of 60 seconds to let em know you won't ever be visiting.
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With an attitude like that, I'd be willing to send you to Syria for free if you think you're such a tough guy.Vector2ILS wrote:Wow! I'll keep that in mind the next time I am driving in the states. Maybe she can sue the Canadian government for not protecting her from that torture and get 10 million bucks...
Jackass.
It's a traffic violation, not a crime.FlyYukon wrote:As far as I know, speeding and running a stop sign IS a crime! But I do agree thats a harsh way to be dealt with."I don't think it's a very humane way to treat someone who had not committed a crime, or even been accused of committing a crime,"
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The Seattle bird is a Lockheed skunkworks product .The workmanship was beautiful.The little plaque said SR71 ,but that was in 1998.I had wanted to see the drone that sat on top but that is still classified and not shown to people like me.
As for movies about Georgia try City Limits about the city jail in Macon ,I would never have went to Georgia if i had saw the movie first .I am glad i got to meet nice people there before i saw that horror show.
A friend from Dalton GA asked "how can you tell the cop car is from Bibb county, You all see flashing lights but no siren just really loud Banjo music "
As for movies about Georgia try City Limits about the city jail in Macon ,I would never have went to Georgia if i had saw the movie first .I am glad i got to meet nice people there before i saw that horror show.
A friend from Dalton GA asked "how can you tell the cop car is from Bibb county, You all see flashing lights but no siren just really loud Banjo music "
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A case of traveller beware
Canadian tourists would be wrong to assume that tourist dollars will trump patriotic concerns in the New U.S.A.
Stephen J. Maddex, Citizen Special
Although every Canadian who travels through the United States should understand that traffic violations in many U.S. states are considered criminal offences, which can subject any driver to possible arrest, the shocking story of the recent arrest and detention of Carleton student Cheryl Kuehn in Georgia raises a much greater, much more fundamentally important point for all of us to consider.
The Georgia officials responsible for detaining Ms. Kuehn claimed they were merely enforcing a state law that requires them to hold foreign nationals charged with crimes to determine whether the individual is legally present in the U.S. or is in violation of federal immigration laws. In other words, the people of Georgia apparently believe that the Bush administration is not doing enough to enforce the nation's immigration policies and is not doing enough to protect the nation's borders, and have taken it upon themselves.
The United States has attempted to clamp down on illegal immigration since 9/11, to the evident expense of the human rights of honest Canadian tourists.
No U.S. state is obligated to enforce federal law, and in many instances state officials lack the expertise or the experience to properly enforce federal policies. Moreover, no person should be subject to arrest in the United States without probable cause to believe the person has committed a crime. Apparently, in Georgia nowadays, the "probable cause" necessary to arrest and detain a foreign national is nothing more than being a foreign national.
Once Mrs. Kuehn demonstrated she was capable of posting the bond necessary to secure her release for the traffic violations (requiring out-of-state drivers to post bond for traffic violations is not unusual in the United States), the State of Georgia had no legitimate reason whatsoever -- and certainly no probable cause -- to keep her in jail. The fact that Ms. Kuehn remained incarcerated for an additional 11 long, deplorable hours was an absolute violation of her fundamental human rights. It has since been revealed that she was even held for nine hours after federal immigration officials cleared her to go, and county and state officials have promised an investigation into the incident.
Unfortunately there's little consistency in the application of these laws. I am a Canadian working in Texas, and if a similar law existed here, I could be thrown in jail on my way into work tomorrow morning.
Recently, many jurisdictions in the United States have come under attack for being "safe havens" for illegal immigrants, where local officials choose not to require proof of valid documentation from immigrants suspected of committing crimes. Some federal politicians have threatened to restrict federal funding available to these cities if they do not change their purported policies. With the upcoming political season about to begin, the debate over national and local immigration policy almost certainly will intensify.
At the centre of this debate, however, is not merely concern about the legal nuances defining who should be permitted to enter the United States to find a job or join family members living here. Rather, the debate over illegal immigration is really a debate about border security, which has become an immensely important topic of discussion since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
As many people saw it, terrorists entered the United States and operated within U.S. borders for years without being detected by the federal officials responsible for enforcing the immigration laws. From this perspective, if the immigration laws had been properly implemented, the terrorists would have been caught before their objectives were accomplished and the tragedy of 9/11 never would have occurred.
Whether the 9/11 attacks could have been averted by more stringent security measures will never be known, but the fact that the people of Georgia are so afraid for their well-being that they seem to believe there is a connection between preventing terrorism and incarcerating a Canadian tourist on her way to a vacation in Florida is as dangerous as it is illogical. In that sense, the type of legislation enacted by Georgia can only be properly characterized as pandering to the lowest common denominator of public fear.
Whether you agree or disagree with U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East when it invaded Iraq in March 2003, one point was made absolutely crystal clear -- the U.S. government is prepared to do whatever it feels necessary to protect its own interests, regardless of the impact its policies may have on other countries or on its standing in the international community. The United States has become more than willing to trade international credibility -- and to act unilaterally -- for perceived gains in domestic security.
These perceived gains, of course, are now coming at the expense of the human rights of average Canadian citizens. And this is probably just the beginning. Canadian citizens are now expected to carry passports whenever they travel to the U.S. by air, and soon if they arrive by land; visitors can also be photographed and fingerprinted. If we are also subject to incarceration at the whim of local police officers, what might happen next is anybody's guess.
This does not make Americans bad people. But it can make them bad neighbours. Any town located along any major route to a common vacation destination has a considerable economic interest in assuring the safe passage of Canadian tourists through its jurisdiction. However, as much as the U.S. has changed in the last several years, it would be a mistake to assume that economic realities will always trump political and patriotic concerns in the New U.S.A.
If the recent changes to Georgia state law are any indication, the United States is no longer the icon of freedom it may once have been -- ]it is slowly becoming an icon of fear, where every foreign national is regarded as a potential enemy, not a potential friend. For those of you who think I am wrong about that, ask Cheryl Kuehn. [/b]Stephen J. Maddex, a Canadian citizen and former resident of Ottawa, works as an attorney in Houston, Texas. He has lived and worked in the United States for more than 15 years.
A case of traveller beware
Canadian tourists would be wrong to assume that tourist dollars will trump patriotic concerns in the New U.S.A.
Stephen J. Maddex, Citizen Special
Although every Canadian who travels through the United States should understand that traffic violations in many U.S. states are considered criminal offences, which can subject any driver to possible arrest, the shocking story of the recent arrest and detention of Carleton student Cheryl Kuehn in Georgia raises a much greater, much more fundamentally important point for all of us to consider.
The Georgia officials responsible for detaining Ms. Kuehn claimed they were merely enforcing a state law that requires them to hold foreign nationals charged with crimes to determine whether the individual is legally present in the U.S. or is in violation of federal immigration laws. In other words, the people of Georgia apparently believe that the Bush administration is not doing enough to enforce the nation's immigration policies and is not doing enough to protect the nation's borders, and have taken it upon themselves.
The United States has attempted to clamp down on illegal immigration since 9/11, to the evident expense of the human rights of honest Canadian tourists.
No U.S. state is obligated to enforce federal law, and in many instances state officials lack the expertise or the experience to properly enforce federal policies. Moreover, no person should be subject to arrest in the United States without probable cause to believe the person has committed a crime. Apparently, in Georgia nowadays, the "probable cause" necessary to arrest and detain a foreign national is nothing more than being a foreign national.
Once Mrs. Kuehn demonstrated she was capable of posting the bond necessary to secure her release for the traffic violations (requiring out-of-state drivers to post bond for traffic violations is not unusual in the United States), the State of Georgia had no legitimate reason whatsoever -- and certainly no probable cause -- to keep her in jail. The fact that Ms. Kuehn remained incarcerated for an additional 11 long, deplorable hours was an absolute violation of her fundamental human rights. It has since been revealed that she was even held for nine hours after federal immigration officials cleared her to go, and county and state officials have promised an investigation into the incident.
Unfortunately there's little consistency in the application of these laws. I am a Canadian working in Texas, and if a similar law existed here, I could be thrown in jail on my way into work tomorrow morning.
Recently, many jurisdictions in the United States have come under attack for being "safe havens" for illegal immigrants, where local officials choose not to require proof of valid documentation from immigrants suspected of committing crimes. Some federal politicians have threatened to restrict federal funding available to these cities if they do not change their purported policies. With the upcoming political season about to begin, the debate over national and local immigration policy almost certainly will intensify.
At the centre of this debate, however, is not merely concern about the legal nuances defining who should be permitted to enter the United States to find a job or join family members living here. Rather, the debate over illegal immigration is really a debate about border security, which has become an immensely important topic of discussion since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
As many people saw it, terrorists entered the United States and operated within U.S. borders for years without being detected by the federal officials responsible for enforcing the immigration laws. From this perspective, if the immigration laws had been properly implemented, the terrorists would have been caught before their objectives were accomplished and the tragedy of 9/11 never would have occurred.
Whether the 9/11 attacks could have been averted by more stringent security measures will never be known, but the fact that the people of Georgia are so afraid for their well-being that they seem to believe there is a connection between preventing terrorism and incarcerating a Canadian tourist on her way to a vacation in Florida is as dangerous as it is illogical. In that sense, the type of legislation enacted by Georgia can only be properly characterized as pandering to the lowest common denominator of public fear.
Whether you agree or disagree with U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East when it invaded Iraq in March 2003, one point was made absolutely crystal clear -- the U.S. government is prepared to do whatever it feels necessary to protect its own interests, regardless of the impact its policies may have on other countries or on its standing in the international community. The United States has become more than willing to trade international credibility -- and to act unilaterally -- for perceived gains in domestic security.
These perceived gains, of course, are now coming at the expense of the human rights of average Canadian citizens. And this is probably just the beginning. Canadian citizens are now expected to carry passports whenever they travel to the U.S. by air, and soon if they arrive by land; visitors can also be photographed and fingerprinted. If we are also subject to incarceration at the whim of local police officers, what might happen next is anybody's guess.
This does not make Americans bad people. But it can make them bad neighbours. Any town located along any major route to a common vacation destination has a considerable economic interest in assuring the safe passage of Canadian tourists through its jurisdiction. However, as much as the U.S. has changed in the last several years, it would be a mistake to assume that economic realities will always trump political and patriotic concerns in the New U.S.A.
If the recent changes to Georgia state law are any indication, the United States is no longer the icon of freedom it may once have been -- ]it is slowly becoming an icon of fear, where every foreign national is regarded as a potential enemy, not a potential friend. For those of you who think I am wrong about that, ask Cheryl Kuehn. [/b]Stephen J. Maddex, a Canadian citizen and former resident of Ottawa, works as an attorney in Houston, Texas. He has lived and worked in the United States for more than 15 years.
Guys I am from the US, and this is deplorable at best. I just sent an e-mail without a friendly term suggesting a boycott on the famous georgia peach. I enjoy peaches fine, but I will survive without them. Incidents like this make America/Americans out to be ignorant. Unfortunately Barney Fife is out there and believes that becuase he has a gun he is able to buck procedures and law. I apologize as a citizen of the US to the young women and her family. Things like this do not happen in Canada and that is why I make my home here. Hopefully I will get the PR card soon and can then be arrested because I am sure that I will then be considered a terrorist.
