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shinnyside
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FO on a Single?

Post by shinnyside »

Hello I'm looking for advice from all you IFR pilots.

I have VFR/PIC time, but no IFR experience. I have an offer to fly right seat with a two crew single engine IFR company. Do you think I can gain the same experience on a single as I would on a twin?

Also I would like to find out what you think of a training bond to upgrade to Captian or FO on a twin down the road.

I have had a hard time finding the best route to take for a person with PIC but no MULTI/IFR time.

If anyone has any sugestions please let me know.

Thank You
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Post by shower of sparks »

listen dude, if you have an offer to fly as a f/o in a single engine ifr, take it. it's ifr experience. i'd love to fly a caravan or a pc 12. im stuck at a day vfr job tring to get out to get some ifr experience. if you dont want the job, i'll take it. im just sayin.

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Post by wallypilot »

In terms of your resume twin time is better, obviously. However, in terms of IFR experience, it makes no difference what you are flying because whether it's a King Air, Navajo, PC12, Twin Cessna, Caravan, etc.....you are flying all the same procedures, doing more or less the same things.

I assume you are talking about a PC12 job...it's great experience...it would be a good job for developing your IFR skills.
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Post by 185_guy »

I was in the same boat as you a while back.
I took the IFR single engine. Capt will come soon enough, I personally dont mind sitting right seat learning the IFR ways from the guys who have been doing it for years. And as for single engine, well that could spark up a debate on here but in the end, it all works out. If you want to get multi time, and the company has em and they like ya, i'm sure an upgrade will happen. And if its in a pc-12, its glass, fast, high, better than a clapped out navajo if you ask me.....

Bonds............ i will have to pay one to go Capt, fully reimburst over a year. I dont want to pay it, in fact i plan to protest but when it comes down to it, if I dont pay, i wont go to flight saftey, wont get an upgrade and wont be able to keep paying my mortgage with this f/o salery. Im not about to sell my house, relocate and make my wife find a new job over the sake of a bond. Sorry if i'm ruining it for the rest of ya :?

Flying IFR instead of vfr/floats has allowed me to have a schedule, be home with the wifey a bit more, make a year round paycheque (which will get better, and be better than float flying btw) and still do some interesting flying. I'd say go for it.
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Post by ScudRunner »

Hi I was recently in the same boat I had about 2700 TT 1000 MPIC all VFR Bush type work everyone liked my resume but would then say. Im sorry but you dont have much IFR or turbine time.

But a company made me an offer and its turned out great, PC-12 right seat and I was only there for about 1 1/2 months about to do my ride as captain. Kinda Funny though that people like to see turbine time honestly you can train a monkey to fly them, driving pistons is so much more work.

And the IFR ive found it to be a no brainer, lots of procedural shit to take in but honestly if you have been doing VFR stuff you soon realize that you have flown in far worse conditions VFR than you ever will IFR. when you hit minimuns and see nothing you go around and its spelled out for you what to do. In the VFR world you do an entire flight at "mins" and think nothing of it. Think for myself the biggest thing to overcome was the fact that I have more than two working gauges now to stare at.

Dont discout singles especially a PC-12 EFIS cockpit, I hear that the big boys look quite favorable on them now even more so than say a Ho or something with steam gauges, easier transition I guess.

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Thanks for the great advice!

Post by shinnyside »

Thank you guys for the great comments, it really helps to work things out.

Shower of Sparks I was asking advice from the IFR crew, with that kind of attitude I don´t think to many people will be passing jobs onto you.

Thanks again to all
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