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Damn Cat, I thought I was doin good by holding out for $660.00. You upped the ante by $220.00!
My hats off to you sir :D
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hahhahaha Cat!!

True that!! btw..Welcome to the club :roll:
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Hey thanks guys, everyone likes to exceed in their efforts to get through life doing things to the best of their ability....

...where this all fell off the rails between me and TCCA was when they made the decision to deny me the right to work in aviation in Canada for no justifiable reason.

They owe me $250,000.00 that was promised to me by the highest bureaucrat in Transport Canada, I have written proof of this and several live witnesses to that fact.

It has been over four years since the ruling was made in my favour that TCCA did in fact deny me due process....the intrest on the $250,000.00 would make the $880.00 they are trying to extort peanuts by comparison.

Anyhow I shall post my letter to Preuss and the Minister of Transport outlining my position on this here on Avcanada to give you people some encouragement that you don't have to submit to intimidation by people who think they are above the law.

Even if they prevail somehow, I am going to make it as difficult as possible and as public as possible.

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Oh yeh, I almost forgot they may have had a problem taking it off any income tax owed to me....hint TCCA...if I you prevented me from working in Canada how in fu.k do you think there would be any tax over payment owed to me???

Idiots.

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I am going to return my letter too. It will have the addition of a big brown streak on it. Most bureaucrats will be quite familiar with the smell.
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Got mine today; needless to say it's not going to be paid, is that governing myself accordingly Mr. Heenan? I'm trying to find out if my MP has a constituency office within an easy drive so I can complain about this in person; especially since that Supreme Court ruling that user fees were a tax without representation and therefore illegal. The other question I have is that the personal information on licence apps etc is supposed to be classified "protected" is it not? Wouldn't that make whoever turned all our information over to the scumbags liable to federal prosecution? Anybody with legal knowledge care to comment?
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What is personal information?

"Personal information" under the Act means information about an "identifiable individual."

For example, "personal information" includes your

name, age, weight, height
medical records
income, purchases and spending habits
race, ethnic origin and colour
blood type, DNA code, fingerprints
marital status and religion
education; and
home address and phone number
"Personal information" does not include the name, job title, business address or office telephone number of an employee of an organization.

How does the Act protect my personal information?

Your ability to control your personal information is key to your right to privacy.

The Act gives you control over your personal information by requiring organizations to obtain your consent to collect, use or disclose information about you. The Act confers certain rights on individuals, and imposes specific obligations on organizations.

The law gives you the right to:

know why an organization collects, uses or discloses your personal information;
expect an organization to collect, use or disclose your personal information reasonably and appropriately, and not use the information for any purpose other than that to which you have consented;
know who in the organization is responsible for protecting your personal information;
expect an organization to protect your personal information by taking appropriate security measures;
expect the personal information an organization holds about you to be accurate, complete and up-to-date;
obtain access to your personal information and ask for corrections if necessary; and
complain about how an organization handles your personal information if you feel your privacy rights have not been respected.
The law requires organizations to:

obtain your consent when they collect, use or disclose your personal information;
supply you with a product or a service even if you refuse consent for the collection, use or disclosure of your personal information unless that information is essential to the transaction;
collect information by fair and lawful means; and
have personal information policies that are clear, understandable and readily available.
An organization should destroy, erase or make anonymous personal information about you that it no longer needs in order to fulfil the purpose for which it was collected.

There are certain exceptions to these principles. For example, an organization may not need to obtain your consent if collecting the information clearly benefits you and your consent cannot be obtained in a timely way; or if the information is needed by a law enforcement agency for an investigation, and getting consent might compromise the information's accuracy.

How can I see the personal information an organization has about me?

Send a written request to the organization that holds your personal information. You must provide enough detail to allow the organization to identify the information you want. For example, include dates, account numbers, and the names or positions of people you may have dealt with at the organization.
Organizations must provide the information requested within a reasonable time and at minimal or no cost.
How can I correct errors or omissions in my personal information?

Write to the organization that has personal information about you and explain the correction you are requesting and why. Supply copies of any documents that support your request, if you have them.
If the organization refuses to correct your personal information, you may require it to attach a statement of your disagreement to the file. This statement must be passed on to any other organization that may have access to the information.
What if I believe my privacy rights are not being respected?

The Act gives you the right to make a complaint if:

you run into any difficulties obtaining your personal information, if an organization refuses to correct information you consider inaccurate or incomplete, or if you suspect your personal information has been improperly collected, used or disclosed; or
you believe an organization is not following any provision of PIPEDA.
Where do I complain?

Contact the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada by calling 1-800-282-1376 if you need more information or advice on how you should proceed.
We encourage you to first try to settle the matter directly with the organization about which you are complaining by contacting the person responsible for handling privacy issues within the organization.
If you are not satisfied with the organization's response, you may contact the organization's industry association, ombudsman or complaint office, if there is one. For example, the Canadian Marketing Association and the Ombudsman for Banking Services and Investments handle customers' complaints about their member companies.
If you are not satisfied with the way the organization or industry association handles the matter, contact the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada. There is no fee for making a complaint to our Office.
What is the role of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada?

The Privacy Commissioner is an ombudsman who attempts to resolve disputes through negotiation, mediation and conciliation.
The Commissioner has the power to investigate your complaint.
The Commissioner may also initiate her own investigation or review regarding how an organization handles personal information.
The Commissioner can recommend that the organization release your personal information to you or correct any inaccuracies.
The Commissioner may recommend to an organizations that they change their personal information handling practices.
The Commissioner will report the findings of the investigation to you and the organization.
What if the organization ignores the recommendations of the Privacy Commissioner?

The Privacy Commissioner has the power to make public any information about the personal information handling practices of an organization. Few organizations would like to be publicly identified as having violated the privacy rights of individuals.
The Privacy Commissioner may also take the complaint to the Federal Court of Canada on your behalf if she supports you, but has been unable to resolve the dispute.
Once you have received the Privacy Commissioner's report, you may, under certain circumstances, take your complaint to the Federal Court of Canada yourself.
The Court can order an organization to correct any practices that do not comply with the law, and to publish notices of how it has or will correct its practices.
The Court can also award damages to the complainant, including damages for humiliation suffered.
What is not covered by PIPEDA?

Any federal government organization already covered by the Privacy Act.
Provincial or territorial governments, and their agents.
Any organization that collects, uses or discloses personal information solely for journalistic, artistic or literary purposes.
An individual's collection, use or disclosure of personal information for personal purposes, such as genealogical research shared with other family members
For more information

If you have any questions about how an organization handles your personal information or wish to make a complaint under the new law, please contact us at:

The Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada
112 Kent Street
Ottawa, ON K1A 1H3
Telephone: (613) 995-8210
Toll-free: 1-800-282-1376
Fax: (613) 947-6850
Web site: http://www.privcom.gc.ca

Please do not make complaints or provide personal information by e-mail, as security cannot be ensured.
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Never underestimate the power of the internet when it comes to forcing the elected officials in Ottawa to pay attention to the mood of the electorate.

I am going to mail my stuff to Preuss and also mail copies to not only the Minister of Transport but the opposition as well, especially that guy who said Preuss is in contempt of Parliament.

I will advise them all to visit this site and read the mood of the those of us in aviation who are fed up with a regulator that has lost its way because of incompetent dishonest corrupt leadership.

Give me a day or so to get my ducks in a row and I shall post everything here.

The more of you who complain the stronger our position.

The bottom line is these people in Parliament were elected to govern this country in a fair and just manner...

...with enough public exposure of the corruption within TCCA we can get these people unelected unless they carry out the will of the people.
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shitdisturber wrote: that Supreme Court ruling that user fees were a tax without representation and therefore illegal.
can anyone post a link to that information?
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xsbank wrote:What is personal information?

"Personal information" under the Act means information about an "identifiable individual."

For example, "personal information" includes your

name, age, weight, height
medical records
income, purchases and spending habits
race, ethnic origin and colour
blood type, DNA code, fingerprints
marital status and religion
education; and
home address and phone number
"Personal information" does not include the name, job title, business address or office telephone number of an employee of an organization.

How does the Act protect my personal information?

Your ability to control your personal information is key to your right to privacy.

The Act gives you control over your personal information by requiring organizations to obtain your consent to collect, use or disclose information about you. The Act confers certain rights on individuals, and imposes specific obligations on organizations.

The law gives you the right to:

know why an organization collects, uses or discloses your personal information;
expect an organization to collect, use or disclose your personal information reasonably and appropriately, and not use the information for any purpose other than that to which you have consented;
know who in the organization is responsible for protecting your personal information;
expect an organization to protect your personal information by taking appropriate security measures;
expect the personal information an organization holds about you to be accurate, complete and up-to-date;
obtain access to your personal information and ask for corrections if necessary; and
complain about how an organization handles your personal information if you feel your privacy rights have not been respected.
The law requires organizations to:

obtain your consent when they collect, use or disclose your personal information;
supply you with a product or a service even if you refuse consent for the collection, use or disclosure of your personal information unless that information is essential to the transaction;
collect information by fair and lawful means; and
have personal information policies that are clear, understandable and readily available.
An organization should destroy, erase or make anonymous personal information about you that it no longer needs in order to fulfil the purpose for which it was collected.

There are certain exceptions to these principles. For example, an organization may not need to obtain your consent if collecting the information clearly benefits you and your consent cannot be obtained in a timely way; or if the information is needed by a law enforcement agency for an investigation, and getting consent might compromise the information's accuracy.

How can I see the personal information an organization has about me?

Send a written request to the organization that holds your personal information. You must provide enough detail to allow the organization to identify the information you want. For example, include dates, account numbers, and the names or positions of people you may have dealt with at the organization.
Organizations must provide the information requested within a reasonable time and at minimal or no cost.
How can I correct errors or omissions in my personal information?

Write to the organization that has personal information about you and explain the correction you are requesting and why. Supply copies of any documents that support your request, if you have them.
If the organization refuses to correct your personal information, you may require it to attach a statement of your disagreement to the file. This statement must be passed on to any other organization that may have access to the information.
What if I believe my privacy rights are not being respected?

The Act gives you the right to make a complaint if:

you run into any difficulties obtaining your personal information, if an organization refuses to correct information you consider inaccurate or incomplete, or if you suspect your personal information has been improperly collected, used or disclosed; or
you believe an organization is not following any provision of PIPEDA.
Where do I complain?

Contact the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada by calling 1-800-282-1376 if you need more information or advice on how you should proceed.
We encourage you to first try to settle the matter directly with the organization about which you are complaining by contacting the person responsible for handling privacy issues within the organization.
If you are not satisfied with the organization's response, you may contact the organization's industry association, ombudsman or complaint office, if there is one. For example, the Canadian Marketing Association and the Ombudsman for Banking Services and Investments handle customers' complaints about their member companies.
If you are not satisfied with the way the organization or industry association handles the matter, contact the Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada. There is no fee for making a complaint to our Office.
What is the role of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada?

The Privacy Commissioner is an ombudsman who attempts to resolve disputes through negotiation, mediation and conciliation.
The Commissioner has the power to investigate your complaint.
The Commissioner may also initiate her own investigation or review regarding how an organization handles personal information.
The Commissioner can recommend that the organization release your personal information to you or correct any inaccuracies.
The Commissioner may recommend to an organizations that they change their personal information handling practices.
The Commissioner will report the findings of the investigation to you and the organization.
What if the organization ignores the recommendations of the Privacy Commissioner?

The Privacy Commissioner has the power to make public any information about the personal information handling practices of an organization. Few organizations would like to be publicly identified as having violated the privacy rights of individuals.
The Privacy Commissioner may also take the complaint to the Federal Court of Canada on your behalf if she supports you, but has been unable to resolve the dispute.
Once you have received the Privacy Commissioner's report, you may, under certain circumstances, take your complaint to the Federal Court of Canada yourself.
The Court can order an organization to correct any practices that do not comply with the law, and to publish notices of how it has or will correct its practices.
The Court can also award damages to the complainant, including damages for humiliation suffered.
What is not covered by PIPEDA?

Any federal government organization already covered by the Privacy Act.
Provincial or territorial governments, and their agents.
Any organization that collects, uses or discloses personal information solely for journalistic, artistic or literary purposes.
An individual's collection, use or disclosure of personal information for personal purposes, such as genealogical research shared with other family members
For more information

If you have any questions about how an organization handles your personal information or wish to make a complaint under the new law, please contact us at:

The Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada
112 Kent Street
Ottawa, ON K1A 1H3
Telephone: (613) 995-8210
Toll-free: 1-800-282-1376
Fax: (613) 947-6850
Web site: http://www.privcom.gc.ca

Please do not make complaints or provide personal information by e-mail, as security cannot be ensured.
Thanks xs. It seems pretty clear to me by the link you've provided that TC has violated the privacy act on each and every one of us whose files have been turned over to Collectcorp; this could be fun.
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Couldn't we use these folks to help?
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So we've all agreed not to pay right?


I sure hope so!
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Yep just got mine this past friday the 13th and was dated for April 3rd. Couldn't help but laugh when I got after reading some of these posts. They are sure as hell not gettin my $330!
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I got mine last week. I don't really understand what the 110$ is for?
Is this the 55$ medical processing (rip off) fee?
I had it automatically taken off my taxes last year, so i would assume i would only owe 55$ for this year.. not 110.
Why would TC do this and not send out some info on this? It seems rather crooked and just bad business to send out collections and not specifying what exactly they are for.
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Mine was also for $110.00 for the year. I always have let my tax return pay for it with the automatic Government deduction prior to the refund.

Its another Government grab for ones cash.
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no letter yet... but I do have Merv Tweed as my MP... I might pay him a visit and ask WTF for you?? :D
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My letter "asked" for 110$, AND they got 46$ off my tax refund....which was my whole tax refund! So, they want 156$??
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Here's a good one! Dated February 23rd, received April 17th.

Now, I'm fairly new to this game - why exactly are we upset about this? Other than the fact that I had no idea this was coming to me. It's my first year and I never got a notice from TC.
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Well weasello, USUALLY you get some sort of invoice BEFORE you get taken to a collection agency? TC=SCUMBAGS
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weasello,

There was an 8 page thread about this same subject prior to this one. Search and read it and you will completely understand where the frustrations are coming from.

I have always received the invoice in past years - and paid it. I just renewed my medical last week, so I wonder if I will get a proper invoice soon???? or a collections bill??? Time will tell.
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Anybody received their taxes back? I am curious is they are still going to deduct it from our taxes? If so we we have legal recourse?

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I got the collectcorp letter and stupid me i paid it. I just found out that TC took away my refund check too... :cry: so now i have to call Program rep at TC (613 998-5059) if i get a credit to my account...
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UPDATE.....Just called the TC rep....actually very nice person. Will be getting my refund BACK for the overpayment.
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I've had my letter for a while now and still haven't paid it. I have heard nothing from anyone, no phone calls or further letters. If I'm wrong in saying this please correct me:
I was under the impression that a collection agency buys the debt from the creditor ie. Collectcorp has paid Transport x number of pennies on the dollar for the right to collect. Transport receives a percentage of the amount they are "owed" and washes their hands of the whole thing. If the bill remains unpaid it is Collectcorp that will pursue us because they are now the ones who are "out" the money. TC no longer cares whether we pay the bill or not because they have been compensated by the collection agency for an agreed amount. If I am correct not paying the bill will not injur TC in any way or cause them to sit up and listen, just damage our credit reports, as they no longer have a vested interest in the matter.
If there is a group action or petition in progress please post the details so I can attach my support.
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U/S wrote:I've had my letter for a while now and still haven't paid it. I have heard nothing from anyone, no phone calls or further letters. If I'm wrong in saying this please correct me:
I was under the impression that a collection agency buys the debt from the creditor ie. Collectcorp has paid Transport x number of pennies on the dollar for the right to collect. Transport receives a percentage of the amount they are "owed" and washes their hands of the whole thing. If the bill remains unpaid it is Collectcorp that will pursue us because they are now the ones who are "out" the money. TC no longer cares whether we pay the bill or not because they have been compensated by the collection agency for an agreed amount. If I am correct not paying the bill will not injur TC in any way or cause them to sit up and listen, just damage our credit reports, as they no longer have a vested interest in the matter.
If there is a group action or petition in progress please post the details so I can attach my support.
Not exactly, or debt collectors would be out of business in no time; a tragedy I'm sure we all agree. What happens is that the company, in this case TC, turns the files over to the collectors. These people then hassle the debtor to get them to pay up; in return the collectors get a percentage of whatever they collect. If nobody pays, they get nothing.
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Yeah, but when I phoned in, I was told that TC had paid Collectcorp the $110 that was receipted to me from TC, forty days before Collectcorp sent me the letter.

So forty days after TC acknowledges payment, Collectcorp sends me the claim but don't need the money because TC has paid the debt.
er, something wrong here??????

If those jackboot idiots at TC need my money, why the f*** are they giving it away????

I thought they were maliciously stupid before this comedy started.

Morons!!!!! Anyway, my MP is getting an ear full of this stupidity.
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