Do Westjet pilots land hard?

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:52 am

I was wondering if any Westjet pilots ever landed so hard that they needed a crane to exit the active?

Rotten Apple #1 · Post by **Rotten Apple #1** » Wed May 30, 2007 6:04 am

A little early to be drinking, isn't it...?

... · Post by **...** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:05 am

flyinphil · Post by **flyinphil** » Wed May 30, 2007 2:41 pm

No, Jazz is used to weed those guys from the Westjet system.

Rotten Apple #1 · Post by **Rotten Apple #1** » Wed May 30, 2007 3:37 pm

I shouldn't have been so quick out of the gate...were you referring to "while employed at WJ", or "before"?

JD

767 · Post by **767** » Wed May 30, 2007 6:36 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fajJ2K1F-o

MacDoo · Post by **MacDoo** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:36 pm

They can land really well..., however...too bad they don't know how to taxi to the ramp yet. I saw one violated last month in Edmonton when he tried to enter the ramp via the wrong taxiway.

ATC: "Westjet XXX, where are you going, call me..."

'pegger · Post by **'pegger** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:57 pm

Dude you must have pretty good eyesight!

BeenUsed · Post by **BeenUsed** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:10 pm

Afterall Macdoo, Edmonton is such a busy place and entering the apron at the wrong point is so critical to flight safety! Did they violate him for entering the uncontrolled apron at the wrong point or passing a hold short point?

A pretty minor incident to make such a blanket statement about their (WJs) pilots. I'm sure you've never done anything as serious as that!

express · Post by **express** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:30 pm

ATC wouldn't violate for entering an apron on the wrong taxiway. It is a big pain in the arse to fill paperwork etc... to actually follow through with something like that. There would at least be some phone calls first which is usually where that stuff ends. I have buddies in ATC. YEG and YVR. Almost to a Tee super people. It happens all the time at the bigger airports. In fact US controllers just give you a "taxi to the gate" or "taxi to whatever runway" etc... By the way, there is no possible way that you would know if someone was violated or not by listening in on radio chatter. Get your head out of your butt, and stick up for your fellow professionals. Once you start flying to more than 5 airports you'll know what I mean.

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:50 pm

If all you ever do wrong is enter a ramp from the wrong taxi way, your ahead of most of us.
There are two types of pilots; those that have made mistakes, and those that will.

Captain Esq. · Post by **Captain Esq.** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:44 pm

KAG, I think you might be wrong there! There's only ONE type of pilot: The one who has made mistakes.

C/E

...and, of course, I'm the exception that proves the rule

sprucemonkey · Post by **sprucemonkey** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:54 pm

They have Lady Pilots. There not that good, but they have them!

55+ · Post by **55+** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:12 am

ATC wouldn't violate for entering an apron on the wrong taxiway.........."

ATS aka Nav Canada doesn't have to authority to "violate" anybody no matter what they think/believe the infraction is. All they do is report incident to TCA Enforcement and if there is enough evidence a letter of investigation is sent out to the culprit. Said culprit is given an opportunity to provide a "reasonable defense" of his/her actions.
There are individuals with in Nav Can who believe they have authority in this regard as I have been subject to their various interpretations but I have gotten pleasure on a few occasions to show them(NC) you don’t know how it works.

express · Post by **express** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:31 pm

exactly.

The Hammer · Post by **The Hammer** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:38 pm

WestJet pilots may not land hard but how come they continue on to YYC after they blow tires on T/O in YYZ?????? Ever heard of Nationair......

'pegger · Post by **'pegger** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:59 pm

The Hammer:

I think you are misinformed - the flight I assume you are speaking of was going to YYZ not coming from there.

The Hammer · Post by **The Hammer** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:36 pm

'pegger wrote:The Hammer:

I think you are misinformed - the flight I assume you are speaking of was going to YYZ not coming from there.

Nope YYZ-YVR, landed in YYC to swap planes and continued on to yvr

oldncold · Post by **oldncold** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:47 pm

i noticed that when they got the first 600 series ng737 that they were landing alot firmer than the 700 series /could that be that the 700 wing span and winglets allow a softer landing or were the crews just getting use to the wing quits flying a tad sooner/ comments?

Azure · Post by **Azure** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:35 pm

Could it be....Westjet has a lot of new pilots, and instead of the Captain freeking out.... lets the newbies learn from their mistakes?

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:51 am

The Hammer wrote:WestJet pilots may not land hard but how come they continue on to YYC after they blow tires on T/O in YYZ?????? Ever heard of Nationair......

Hmm I’m having a problem with this rumor as it goes against conventional safety wisdom and common sense. There has to be a whole lot more to this story otherwise WJS is going to be all over everyone involved..…

Rotten Apple #1 · Post by **Rotten Apple #1** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:03 am

Oldncold, you could be on to something, or not. I've been on the NG for 4 years now, and sometimes I go to work and have good landings, and sometimes I'm calling my chiropractor. When it comes to the firmness or smoothness of the landings, who cares (maybe little old ladies...)?

What matters is where you touchdown, and hence where you get stopped. Practicing smooth landings isn't my goal. Practicing accurate landings is.

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:28 am

the first landing I ever had on the 600 and 800 were greasers.... and it hasn't happened since! :p

tonysoprano · Post by **tonysoprano** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:36 am

We're all passengers the last 100 feet.

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:07 am

Hmm I’m having a problem with this rumor as it goes against conventional safety wisdom and common sense.

Maybe you should contact your local MP.

Do Westjet pilots land hard?

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