Hello Flair Pilots.

natureboy · Post by **natureboy** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:20 am

arewethereyet wrote:P.S... guess we will wait and see how round 2 plays out!

Actually round 2 already played out, except with canjet and the unions lost again!

Santiago · Post by **Santiago** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:25 pm

Hey NB. you wouldnt happen to work for a union company by chance... would you?

WING IT · Post by **WING IT** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:05 pm

Santiago wrote:Hey NB. you wouldnt happen to work for a union company by chance... would you?

Hey Santiago. You didn't happen to be part of a union that killed a good company...did you?

natureboy · Post by **natureboy** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:56 am

Santiago wrote:Hey NB. you wouldnt happen to work for a union company by chance... would you?

Worked and not to again, don't worry when the big red machine crashes you'll realize what they actually do for you!

Coast-dog · Post by **Coast-dog** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:51 pm

Looks like JR has come out of 'retirement'...

http://www.flightcraft.ca/company_KF_ma ... t_team.asp

capt. poopy pants · Post by **capt. poopy pants** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:14 pm

good luck working for this west coast a- hole , he's as bad as the other jerk@kfc. feel sorry for all of you.

MyWave · Post by **MyWave** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:27 am

capt. poopy pants wrote:good luck working for this west coast a- hole , he's as bad as the other jerk@kfc. feel sorry for all of you.

I feel sorry for them too.
Their profit sharing cheque was a piddly $4,000.00. Hardly worth it.

Also, Flair didn't bid on the PCL contract, whaddaya suppose THAT means?

Keep on hating...

KFlightcraft · Post by **KFlightcraft** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:02 pm

ah he's just bitter to be at cargojet, and deep with envy that flightcraft is a better place

WING IT · Post by **WING IT** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:36 pm

What does JR have to do with Flair?

capt. poopy pants · Post by **capt. poopy pants** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:05 pm

hey kflightcraft
first of all,smart ass,i don't work for cargojet but did for .....well,that place you love so much. i hope the plc contract goes back to your company and your 4000.00 profit sharing will soon be 4.00 when it comes tome to upgrade your fleet to meet demands. whats next for you!....dc8.

MyWave · Post by **MyWave** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:47 am

capt. poopy pants wrote:hey kflightcraft
first of all,smart ass,i don't work for cargojet but did for .....well,that place you love so much. i hope the plc contract goes back to your company and your 4000.00 profit sharing will soon be 4.00 when it comes tome to upgrade your fleet to meet demands. whats next for you!....dc8.

"PLC"? "Comes tome"?

Hope you fly better than you spell, Capt. P!!

Coast-dog · Post by **Coast-dog** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:11 am

WING IT wrote:What does Editted have to do with Flair?

Editted is the money behind Flair.

Editted rents office space from X, buys flight attendant services from X, buys flight dispatch from X, buys maintenance from X.

Have a look at the addresses on the recent job posting from Flair.

It's the same bloody address!!!!

My God, how clueless can you people be!!!!

Editted by JC

787 · Post by **787** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:43 am

Recent job posting show Flair looking for 737NG crew. Do they have 737's or are getting some in the near future ?

WING IT · Post by **WING IT** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:47 pm

787 wrote:Recent job posting show Flair looking for 737NG crew. Do they have 737's or are getting some in the near future ?

Their job posting sounds a lot like the agreements that Skyservice and Sunwing currently have in place. I wonder who they will be flying for and where their bases will be located.

asdfasd · Post by **asdfasd** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:28 pm

They will start in Canada with flights up to a private strip near Ft Mac.

avtutor · Post by **avtutor** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:41 pm

what's the package they are offering:?:

richardhead · Post by **richardhead** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:48 am

whipline wrote:Actually nature boy, the lease cost of the DC-10 was killing ACE. They were making payments on an aircraft that was not flying. The DC-10 was not flying because there training program was not approved by transport, and rightfully so.

What ACE should have done was convert the DC-10 to a KC-10 and refuel their airplanes in the air. Then their crews could have flown longer then the 17 hr days they were normally doing.

Anybody know the name of the pilot at ACE who refused to go above the legal duty day prescribed by TC and get fired or even reprimanded for it.

richardhead · Post by **richardhead** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:51 am

teacher wrote:What killed ACE:

1) DC-10 training was not approved by transport AFTER several pilots had already went through it. By pulling the plug it grounded the plane which sat in the desert AFTER all the mods had been completed. Air Canada (the prime customer) than went with Global instead of ACE for the Europe flying which ended the only real client ACE had for the DC-10.

2) No other Canadian company has been able to do the Cuba contract for one simple reason. The Cubans don't pay well and no company has wanted to do the contract at the offered price. Flair may be doing Havana to Toronto but thats it.

There's probably a lot more reasons but these are the ones that I was aware of. As well, the pilots may have unionized BUT no changes to working conditions were ever implemented. The company went under oweing $10 million dollars. If you are gonna tell us that the debt was racked up in 6 months WITHOUT the pilots ever having a change in pay or working conditions your nuts.

I found this interesting link which gives a little backgrounder on ACE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AllCanada_Express

You do realize that Wikipedia info can be written by anybody. ANYBODY

WING IT · Post by **WING IT** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:04 am

What does the last two posts have to do with flair?

Coast-dog · Post by **Coast-dog** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:42 am

He's the most efficient destroyer of JT8D engines I've ever heard of...

Hello Flair Pilots.

Retired? Hah!