Flightexec Pilots (question)

got_queludes? · Post by **got_queludes?** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:15 pm

...flying the Cheyenne, how much flying are you doing these days? Heard things had slowed down.

Peace.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:46 pm

Not sure what is going on these days with fex....but check out flighaware.com....

fex 100/300/400/500/600 and then on the medevac side 001/003/004/005/006......the K200 is fex 200.....maybe they are pushing the jets alot...but not sure...

this may give you an idea....

Missed_Approach · Post by **Missed_Approach** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:56 pm

I see them twice - 5 times daily in and out of YTZ... maybe it's less, but I know I see them minimum once. Most of the time it's the sudbury run!

Flightexec *thumbsup* Nice people from that company!

Got Queludes? · Post by **Got Queludes?** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:06 am

What the deuce... are you both on queludes?

Clearly no reliable information in this thread.

I heard FE wants you to pay for a PPC now, is this something new? And how much does it cost? Might be worthwhile for the chance to work in Toronto... if its not TOO expensive and I can talk my parents into it.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:44 am

I can talk my parents into it

Oh boy, is this going to be good

ykzpilot2 · Post by **ykzpilot2** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:22 pm

When I was there averaging about 35-45 a month. There has been a cost for the ppc for sometime now, 5000 up front.

Missed_Approach · Post by **Missed_Approach** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:05 pm

Got Queludes? wrote:What the deuce... are you both on queludes?

Clearly no reliable information in this thread.

I heard FE wants you to pay for a PPC now, is this something new? And how much does it cost? Might be worthwhile for the chance to work in Toronto... if its not TOO expensive and I can talk my parents into it.

I think my information is pretty reliable since I work at the island.

Sampson · Post by **Sampson** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:21 pm

The inside word from one of their drivers is that many are jumping ship. Can't be any more specific than that as I didn't get him to elaborate.

I remember a few years back getting the runaround from them time and time again. The "everything looks good and we'll call you as soon a something comes up and stay in touch in the meantime" story that eventually changed to "do you have any Northern Experience? Go get some time up North and you'll look much more attractive to us". Then we might give you a job.

LOL! Definitely the company that gave me the most BS on my journey up the ladder.

Happy to say that so far things have worked out just fine. Just gotta keep swinging that bat ladies and gentlemen!

31T2 · Post by **31T2** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:40 pm

You guys have it all wrong, the planes are flying just as much as usual. Guys are averages 600 to 700 hours a year.
You don't pay for your PPC, you post a training bond for $5000 dollars that gets paid back over a year with %10 on top of it. Not a bad investment. It has been like that for a few years.
As far as guys leaving, there have been a few guys that have left thats for sure but they have all gone to Jazz or Air Canada I think one went to Georgian, again not a bad thing.
And as far as Flightexec wanting guys with northern experience there is nothing wrong with that, there are guys flying there that have come from instructing and out of the office but most are from up north simply becuse they have a higher experience level and thats what the company wants. Any other questions?

The Other Kind · Post by **The Other Kind** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:03 am

you post a training bond for $5000 dollars that gets paid back over a year with %10 on top of it. Not a bad investment.

What a f$%king joke. When will this madness stop? Companies can't find drivers and there are lots of opportunities right now, and MORONS are still paying money up front for their job?!?

And someone thinks this is a 'good investment'....

Sampson · Post by **Sampson** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:57 am

The Other Kind wrote: What a f$%king joke. When will this madness stop? Companies can't find drivers and there are lots of opportunities right now, and MORONS are still paying money up front for their job?!?

And someone thinks this is a 'good investment'....

And that in a nutshell is why our industry is F**ked up like it is. Pro rated training contract is what it should be. If you are paying money up front regardless of how much interest you are getting, you a indeed a MORON! Jetsgo anyone?

Also don't forget getting paid crap on top of paying paying for your job.

In response to 31T2, there is nothing wrong with asking for Northern Experience. My point was that they should have told me that off the bat and not wasted my time and gas driving to CYXU numerous times. BTW it turns out that this was their CP's way of saying PFO, as quite a few of my peers that were trying to get in there were getting the same line after being promised the world. In any case it's all water under the bridge now.

31T2 · Post by **31T2** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:18 am

I agree paying for a job isn't the way it should be but really if you put that $5000 some where else it would be hit or miss if you made 10% on it in a year.
Sampson it sounds like they may not have wanted you for many different reasons...and telling you to keep in touch isn't giving you a run around, in this industry you could be at the right place at the right time. I think you just have negative view on life, who gets so worked up about something like this anyways?

bob sacamano · Post by **bob sacamano** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:29 am

Sampson wrote:
The Other Kind wrote: What a f$%king joke. When will this madness stop? Companies can't find drivers and there are lots of opportunities right now, and MORONS are still paying money up front for their job?!?

And someone thinks this is a 'good investment'....
And that in a nutshell is why our industry is F**ked up like it is. Pro rated training contract is what it should be. If you are paying money up front regardless of how much interest you are getting, you a indeed a MORON! Jetsgo anyone?

Also don't forget getting paid crap on top of paying paying for your job.

In response to 31T2, there is nothing wrong with asking for Northern Experience. My point was that they should have told me that off the bat and not wasted my time and gas driving to CYXU numerous times. BTW it turns out that this was their CP's way of saying PFO, as quite a few of my peers that were trying to get in there were getting the same line after being promised the world. In any case it's all water under the bridge now.

Why did they get you to drive to yxu? I've met the CP at ykz.

Sampson · Post by **Sampson** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:33 am

It was back in the day before they moved to KZ. Like I said it's all water under the bridge now. Truth is I really don't care anymore. I'm happy to say that my career has advanced substantially beyond outfits like Flight Exec. I was merely pointing out that I had been given the most runaround by them out of all the prospective outfits that I was trying to get on with back then. That's all and 31T2 I'm not going to get into a debate with you about my outlook on life.

ykzpilot2 · Post by **ykzpilot2** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:57 pm

Sampsons posts seem accurate... Typically there are reasons companies have training bonds, just look at the types of companies that use them. You don't see AC with one.

DEFPOTEC · Post by **DEFPOTEC** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:10 pm

that's not fare to say, ykzpilot. AC and Flightexec are two very different companies. for the most part, the experience needed to get to AC is gained from outfits like Flightexec and Flightexec knows that. nobody makes a career as a Cheyenne captain.

ykzpilot2 · Post by **ykzpilot2** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:33 pm

ykzpilot2's friend here, just reading this little thred.
My advice with the way the industry is going now is to DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Don't pull the 10 minute interview and accept the first job offer. Ask them specific questions, get the information and make an informed decision.
You sleep in the bed you make boys.
I hear nexjet is hiring?...I hear they're great

dhutacuhf

Charlie Papa Lima · Post by **Charlie Papa Lima** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:36 pm

I guess if the girlfriend or parents are willing to stump up the cash then it makes the whole scenario OK? It is not like you are paying it, right?

I guess if you have to live in Southern Ontario, then all it costs is 5K. You can save that by living in the parents basement!!

When does it stop.....

767 · Post by **767** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:50 pm

i was flying today in my 172, was tuned into toronto terminal just for fun and i heard a convo between the flight exec pilots and the controller. the aircraft was having transponder issues..

pinecone160 · Post by **pinecone160** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:13 pm