AC767, Fire Trucks, Stopped on runway in YYZ

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:07 pm

Not really a huge deal, just wanted to know why.

TAWS · Post by **TAWS** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:35 pm

If so....that's 2 in 2 days. AC 155 YUL to YYC turned around Sunday night and came back after encountering hydraulic problems...uneventful landing.

Well they say "it" comes in three's!

CanadaEH · Post by **CanadaEH** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:44 pm

Doesn't sound uneventful to me:

Air Canada flight forced to return to Trudeau Airport
Mon, 2007-09-24 09:36.
Tim Parent

An Air Canada flight out of Trudeau Airport was forced to return because of a problem with the landing gear hydraulics.

Flight 155 to Calgary took off Sunday evening. About forty minutes in to the flight, the pilots discovered the hydraulics problem and decided to turn the plane around and return to the airport.

The hydraulics problem meant braking and steering would be an issue once the plane touched down. It made a heavy landing and a hard stop resulting in the gear catching fire. Emergency crews, already having been called in, were quick to extinguish the flames.

All 121 passengers and five crew were evacuated from the aircraft without incident or injury.

An investigation is underway.

TAWS · Post by **TAWS** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:49 pm

Well I believe you're right and I'm wrong, it was eventful, thanks for the correction CanadaEH. My information was from ctv and the article said nothing of a fire or evacuation. Sounds like the crew did a great job.

TAWS

stupido · Post by **stupido** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:21 pm

Take off around V1- engine fire.

C-FABH · Post by **C-FABH** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:58 pm

AC878 YYZ-ZRH returned to YYZ this evening... got as far as YUL and turned around, no clue why.

Inverted2 · Post by **Inverted2** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:44 pm

It was on the runway for several hours. Must have been bad if they kept it there that long. Also looked like foam or water was sprayed around it.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:50 am

why the hard landing?....

Lever · Post by **Lever** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:07 am

"why the hard landing?...."

Because newspapers are never wrong.

..Also resulting in a gear fire sans brake fire.

C-FABH · Post by **C-FABH** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:46 pm

YYZ-ZRH was packs/air conditioning problems
YYZ-TLV was a fuel spill

Troubleshot · Post by **Troubleshot** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:30 pm

C-FABH wrote:YYZ-ZRH was packs/air conditioning problems
YYZ-TLV was a fuel spill

Yeah but that wasn't last night. The problem I was referring to was the aircraft that had to be towed off the runway , unless you mean a large fuel leak perhaps?

C-FABH · Post by **C-FABH** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:37 pm

Tower seemed to think it had coated the entire runway... so yes, I believe

CD · Post by CD » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:51 am

Troubleshot wrote:
C-FABH wrote:YYZ-ZRH was packs/air conditioning problems
YYZ-TLV was a fuel spill
Yeah but that wasn't last night. The problem I was referring to was the aircraft that had to be towed off the runway , unless you mean a large fuel leak perhaps?

Here's one of them:

CADORS Number: 2007O2109

The Air Canada Boeing 767-300 series aircraft (operating as ACA084) was departing on a scheduled IFR flight from Toronto (LBPIA) (CYYZ) to Tel Aviv (Ben Gurion) International Airport (Israel) (LLBG). Shortly after departure (2224Z) from Toronto (LBPIA) runway 24R, it was determined that the aircraft was leaking/venting fuel even before departure. Air Traffic Control (ATC) cleared the aircraft into a hold at 5 ,000 feet to burn more fuel before returning to the point of departure. ACA084 landed without incident on runway 15L at Toronto (LBPIA) at 2254Z (winds were 170º at eight ( 8 ) knots). Some tires blew during the landing and the aircraft stopped on the runway. The passengers were deplaned with airstairs and taken by bus to the terminal. ATC and the Greater Toronto Airport Authority (G.T.A.A.) handled the situation as a declared emergency.

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:57 am

CAL wrote:why the hard landing?....

Just a guess but perhaps the hydraulic failure meant a flapless approach and the firm touchdown in the TD area was intentional so as not to float down the runway Air France-style. The hot brakes/brake fire would've likely been the result of the higher than normal landing speed.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:22 pm

Ok thanks....I get that...but the cadors did not say anything of a hydraulic failure?....anyway...just wondering......cheers for the post though....