If you think that this media outlet is a good source of information on the conduct of the RCMP, may I remind you that these are the same losers that can't report the right type of aircraft even days after a crash, or get a chump like Myles O'Brien on CNN to give his "expert" opinion on aviation stories.
Take it with a grain of salt.
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And where is the website dedicated to all those members who have saved a wife from being beaten to death.
Or those who happen to stumple upon someone passed out in the -35 winters of Bumfuck MB...
Or prevented hundreds of drunk drivers from killing other motorist's at check points???
How about flipping the coin. These same acts people are calling abuse will get you filled with 10lbs of lead in less than a heart beat in my neck of the woods.
Must be nice to be in a place where you can complain as loud as you want about anything you want.
Or those who happen to stumple upon someone passed out in the -35 winters of Bumfuck MB...
Or prevented hundreds of drunk drivers from killing other motorist's at check points???
How about flipping the coin. These same acts people are calling abuse will get you filled with 10lbs of lead in less than a heart beat in my neck of the woods.
Must be nice to be in a place where you can complain as loud as you want about anything you want.
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Do not wish death for your enemy, plan it.
Semper Fidelis
“De inimico non loquaris male, sed cogites"-
Do not wish death for your enemy, plan it.
For some reason, I am reminded of a discussion between two prisoners, who were complaining to each other.
The first complained that every week, he was anally gang-raped. The second replied that the first was lucky, he was anally gang-raped every day.
It's disappointing that Canadians are so apathetic, and hold themselves and their leaders to such low standards.
The first complained that every week, he was anally gang-raped. The second replied that the first was lucky, he was anally gang-raped every day.
It's disappointing that Canadians are so apathetic, and hold themselves and their leaders to such low standards.
No no, that's not allowed. You have to discredit the entire organization, that's how all these goddammed activists sleep at night.Nark wrote:And where is the website dedicated to all those members who have saved a wife from being beaten to death.
Or those who happen to stumple upon someone passed out in the -35 winters of Bumfuck MB...
Or prevented hundreds of drunk drivers from killing other motorist's at check points???
How about flipping the coin. These same acts people are calling abuse will get you filled with 10lbs of lead in less than a heart beat in my neck of the woods.
Must be nice to be in a place where you can complain as loud as you want about anything you want.
This is just another one of those whiny whistleblower websites that have sprung up in the past few years. Let's discredit an entire organization because of a few bad apples.
I'm going to make a website called Airtrafficcontrollerskillpeople.com because there have been a minute few in the past that have demonstrated gross negligence and gotten people hurt.
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How long can the police detain you on the side of a highway?
I was stopped at night by the OPP ( about 10 years ago) They demanded to search my vehical. I refused, the cop said "very well you can sit here on the side of the highway in the ditch and well wait here until that search warrant comes".
I had been driving exactly the speed limit. I know all my lights and vehical was in good working order. It was 2 am and the cop told me I would sit and get eatin by the mosquitos until at least 12 noon or 8 hours or so for the courts to open and to give them enough time to get a judge to issue a search warrant. It was on the trans Canada about 30 klicks east of Marathon On.
I decided to let them search but I made it clear it was under protest. They found nothing because there was nothing. Apparently driving exactly the speed limit at night in moose country is something only drug smugglers do.
I wish I knew more about my rights.
I was stopped at night by the OPP ( about 10 years ago) They demanded to search my vehical. I refused, the cop said "very well you can sit here on the side of the highway in the ditch and well wait here until that search warrant comes".
I had been driving exactly the speed limit. I know all my lights and vehical was in good working order. It was 2 am and the cop told me I would sit and get eatin by the mosquitos until at least 12 noon or 8 hours or so for the courts to open and to give them enough time to get a judge to issue a search warrant. It was on the trans Canada about 30 klicks east of Marathon On.
I decided to let them search but I made it clear it was under protest. They found nothing because there was nothing. Apparently driving exactly the speed limit at night in moose country is something only drug smugglers do.
I wish I knew more about my rights.
Well in the case he didn't have a warrant he cant make you wait while he gets one...Unless you are specifically being detained wish the fine fellow a pleasant eve and carry on with the night.Driving Rain wrote:How long can the police detain you on the side of a highway?
I was stopped at night by the OPP ( about 10 years ago) They demanded to search my vehical. I refused, the cop said "very well you can sit here on the side of the highway in the ditch and well wait here until that search warrant comes".
I had been driving exactly the speed limit. I know all my lights and vehical was in good working order. It was 2 am and the cop told me I would sit and get eatin by the mosquitos until at least 12 noon or 8 hours or so for the courts to open and to give them enough time to get a judge to issue a search warrant. It was on the trans Canada about 30 klicks east of Marathon On.
I decided to let them search but I made it clear it was under protest. They found nothing because there was nothing. Apparently driving exactly the speed limit at night in moose country is something only drug smugglers do.
I wish I knew more about my rights.
EDIT: PS I would HIGHLY recommend everyone carry a copy of the criminal code in their car... I have one in all 3 of my vehicles as well as at home obviously... unfortunately its a bit unwieldy for when im out on the bike... however I suppose if your out riding your already living somewhat dangerously hey
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Just a question that I've been pondering since all this Tazer business(well actually quite a bit longer):
Quite a few years ago, some buddies went out to Penticton for Peachfest. The boys were in a van with a flat of beers in the back headed to some local festivities when they hit a checkstop. I don't know if they had been drinking but the Mounties spied the flat in the back, made them bring it out and then proceeded to pour out all the contents onto the road. No one was even given a breathalyzer or requested (forced) to do any tests and they were sent on their way.
I guess my question is, when has it been a crime for an adult to possess alcohol (these were not open) and when did we get rid of the right to face a judge or jury and be able to have redress in a court of law?
I know our constitution does not protect personal property rights (while it does guarantee discrimination) but does it not contain something against the unreasonable search and seizure and security of the person.
It just strikes me that in this country we allow cops, especially the Mounties to be judge, jury, and executioner
Quite a few years ago, some buddies went out to Penticton for Peachfest. The boys were in a van with a flat of beers in the back headed to some local festivities when they hit a checkstop. I don't know if they had been drinking but the Mounties spied the flat in the back, made them bring it out and then proceeded to pour out all the contents onto the road. No one was even given a breathalyzer or requested (forced) to do any tests and they were sent on their way.
I guess my question is, when has it been a crime for an adult to possess alcohol (these were not open) and when did we get rid of the right to face a judge or jury and be able to have redress in a court of law?
I know our constitution does not protect personal property rights (while it does guarantee discrimination) but does it not contain something against the unreasonable search and seizure and security of the person.
It just strikes me that in this country we allow cops, especially the Mounties to be judge, jury, and executioner
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I would suspect that a flat of beer, in a van full of "boys", had better be tucked way, way in the back in order to be "not readily accessible to anyone". You'd probably be safer to transport boxed beer than a flat, unless you have a trunk in which to store it.Carrying liquor in a motor vehicle
You are allowed to carry liquor in a motor vehicle provided it is sealed and not readily accessible to anyone in the motor vehicle (stored behind the seat, in the trunk, etc.)
Taking home unfinished bottles of wine
You may take home a bottle of unfinished wine from a licensed establishment, but it must be sealed for you by an employee of the restaurant, bar, pub, etc., and, if you are driving, you must transport it properly - not readily accessible to anyone in the motor vehicle (stored behind the seat, in the trunk, etc.)
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Thanks Widow,
Being I wasn't there and this was around 20 years ago, I'm not sure of all the facts. I'm still mystified by the wanton destruction of someone's property without due process of law. (More of a philosophical question). Seizure of said property would seem to be more appropriate with "The Boys" coming around the next day to the Cop Shop to pick it up. I doubt any of them would have been in the best condition the next morning to pick it up, seizure or not!
Kinda reminds me of the story about the fellow who pulls up to the dock after a long day of fishing, and not catching anything to find his wife waiting for him. After greeting each other the wife tells her husband she wants to take the boat for a spin. The husband hops out sans fishing gear, the wife hops in and away she goes.
In the middle of the lake, the wife is sitting reading a book. A fish and game warden pulls up and says,"Madam, do you have a fishing license?"
"No", is the reply
"Then I will have to charge you with illegal fishing" says the warden.
"But I am not fishing" says the woman
"Yes, but you have all the necessary equipment and the opportunity" replies the warden
"Oh", says the woman, "then I'm charging you with rape"
"What do you mean" says a shocked warden, "I haven't raped you!"
"Yes,but you have both the necessary equipment and the opportunity!"
The woman enjoyed the rest of the afternoon in peace
Being I wasn't there and this was around 20 years ago, I'm not sure of all the facts. I'm still mystified by the wanton destruction of someone's property without due process of law. (More of a philosophical question). Seizure of said property would seem to be more appropriate with "The Boys" coming around the next day to the Cop Shop to pick it up. I doubt any of them would have been in the best condition the next morning to pick it up, seizure or not!
Kinda reminds me of the story about the fellow who pulls up to the dock after a long day of fishing, and not catching anything to find his wife waiting for him. After greeting each other the wife tells her husband she wants to take the boat for a spin. The husband hops out sans fishing gear, the wife hops in and away she goes.
In the middle of the lake, the wife is sitting reading a book. A fish and game warden pulls up and says,"Madam, do you have a fishing license?"
"No", is the reply
"Then I will have to charge you with illegal fishing" says the warden.
"But I am not fishing" says the woman
"Yes, but you have all the necessary equipment and the opportunity" replies the warden
"Oh", says the woman, "then I'm charging you with rape"
"What do you mean" says a shocked warden, "I haven't raped you!"
"Yes,but you have both the necessary equipment and the opportunity!"
The woman enjoyed the rest of the afternoon in peace
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Brings me back to my point about the complete subjectivity and the Mounties being the sole adjudicator to deprive a person the peaceful enjoyment of their propertyMy question would be how does one ever transport such an item in a van, minivan, or station wagon, or any hatchback for that matter, whose cargo areas are not separate from the passenger compartment?
Or do the cops treat a van full of guys vs. a van full of nuns differently in this case? If they do, that's bullshit.
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cpl=atc, that situation very nearly happened to me. Coming from a friends house and had a burned out headlight which I was pulled over for. Had a 6pack of Van Isle Brewery Pale Ale which I had taken with me up north. They wanted to pour it out. No F-in way and I told him that. I was in a small hatchback stationwagon and the only way he'd let me go with it was if i put it under my tires in the back (I carry my snow tires with me) the only place I couldn't reach. Anyways, still got a ticket, which I disputed but the judge said it could have been worse. For every person in the vehicle the fine doubles. I asked the judge about my car being a stationwagon and his solution was to put it on the roof!! The guy who pulled me over wasn't RCMP though. A special Constable who sure-as-shit thought he was RCMP.
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tazzzzers a thought to ponder
consider this / if tazers are safe a non lethal weapon then
WHY ARE THEY ON THE LIST OF PROHIBITED WEAPONS?
why can't you go down to the local hardware store and buy one ?
a kitchen cleaver is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands too.
but i don't think the average person picks one (cleaver) up to
run down the street .
here is the problem the lawyers are making laws to prohibit every thing to justisfy there on importance. when the society has no legal means of peaceful meaningful protest left , all the laws won't save the ass. that is when anarachy begins.
a simple anology is never back a cat into a corner unless you like to get
clawed.
WHY ARE THEY ON THE LIST OF PROHIBITED WEAPONS?
why can't you go down to the local hardware store and buy one ?
a kitchen cleaver is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands too.
but i don't think the average person picks one (cleaver) up to
run down the street .
here is the problem the lawyers are making laws to prohibit every thing to justisfy there on importance. when the society has no legal means of peaceful meaningful protest left , all the laws won't save the ass. that is when anarachy begins.
a simple anology is never back a cat into a corner unless you like to get
clawed.
