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Home invasion leaves one attacker dead

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Nothing warms the heart more on a cold winter's day than to see that these two SOBs got exactly what they deserved. Kudos to the resident. It is for exactly this reason that I keep a buck knife in my bedside table.


Home invasion leaves one attacker dead
BILL GRAVELAND
Canadian Press
January 3, 2008 at 8:04 PM EST
LANGDON, Alta. — A home invasion in this bustling hamlet east of Calgary early Thursday morning ended with one of the invaders dead and the second in critical condition in hospital.

Two men forcibly entered a home and burst into a bedroom where a 35-year-old man and his 24-year-old girlfriend were asleep.

When it ended, the 32-year-old attacker was dead and his accomplice, 27, was eventually taken to hospital with stab wounds where he was listed in serious condition.

“It is an unusual case. It doesn't happen very often to have a home invasion where you have an attacker who ends up deceased,” said RCMP Cpl. Patricia Neely. “It is pretty rare.”

“The two assailants entered the bedroom where the victims had been sleeping and a struggle ensued and that's where the one assailant was discovered.”

One of the attackers was dead when police arrived. The second man fled and eventually turned up in the hospital in nearby Strathmore, where he was transported to hospital in Calgary.

The 35-year-old resident of the home was also transported to hospital but his injuries were not believed to be serious and his condition was listed as stable.

The reason for the early morning intrusion is unclear, said Cpl. Neely, but didn't appear to be tied to illicit activity.

“We have no ties to criminal activity at all at this point,” she said. “These people were known to each other but at this point we have no connection to gangs or drugs that we've determined.”

The police investigation will now try to determine what precipitated the attack. There is no indication whether the death of the home invader could be described as a murder, said Neely.

“I think if people enter your home at 3:30 in the morning it's not for a cup of tea and there was probably some nefarious component to the entry,” she said.

“The Criminal Code authorizes people to use as much force as necessary to protect themselves and their property.”

“However, that force must be the minimum amount necessary. Obviously this person had a right to protect himself but the investigation will focus on whether or not he used the minimum amount of force necessary to ensure his safety and that of the other person in the home,” she added.

The next step will be to conduct interviews, locating individuals related to the case and to retrace the events leading up to the incident.

An autopsy on the 32-year-old man, whose name has not been released, will be conducted Friday.

Although Langdon is officially a hamlet, its population was 3,500 in 2006.
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Yeah but this is Canada, where he will likely end up behind bars and the remaining robber will likely get awarded millions of dollars!!
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that will be self defense...at 3 in the morning without prior notice the person at home will definitely react fast and take care of the lives insider his home without thinking that he might kill someone...a normal reaction to someone afraid and just want to finish it of before they got him..
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Boy, the lefties are going to get all whiny about this one.
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“We have no ties to criminal activity at all at this point,” she said. “These people were known to each other but at this point we have no connection to gangs or drugs that we've determined.”
Stay tuned I predict there is more to this story...3:00 a.m. or not something hinky going on here. Appears to be no criminal activity, drugs etc yet you stab two guys you know, killing one? yeah right.
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good on him for taking care of business. I hope he is cleared of all charges. I'm sick of our laughable justice system. Bring back captial punishment, start spanking your kids if there bad.
I guess I swing a bit to the right... :lol:
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nobody going to bring up the best line of the whole story???


"a 35-year-old man and his 24-year-old girlfriend"


atta boy!
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I'll admit I usually swing left but if I'm facing two attackers in my house at least one of them is going down fast and staying down for the rest of the engagement. The line between delivering immediate incapacitation and lethal force is very narrow if you don't have any tools like a baton or spray at your disposal. That is what I would consider the minimal force required for self defence.
Of course I agree something smells fishy about this one and I suspect we don't have the full story yet.
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I imagine there will be lots more to this story. Latest has everyone involved knowing each other so it appears that this is not your typical home invasion.
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How come cops are taught to SHOOT TO KILL yet we have to use minimum force if someone breaks into our house?

I'm sorry but if I have to use my shotgun (it sleeps under the bed) on someone who broke into my house, there will be no hesitation to kill him in order to protect my family. The judge can do what he wants after but in the heat of the action, theres no time to think whether you should just shoot him in the leg because he might pull out a gun and kill you.

I wish Canada was like Texas. Everybody's got a gun and there is less chance someone would break into your house while you're there because they know that there is a good chance they will be shot. Lethally. The American way, not in the leg like our system sort of says.
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Bandit1, I am with you on this one! My shotgun sleeps under the bed as well. I was awoken by some punks trying to break into our house in the middle of the night and trust me it is not a warm and cozy feeling. You don't know if they are armed, or what their intentions are. Luckily they were all scared away when I got up and turned all the lights on. The last thing I want to do in my lifetime is kill another human being, but if someone invades my home and I consider it a threat to my family, I would not hesitate to open fire. Knowing self defense is fine and dandy but the best of karate chops is no match against a bullet unfortunately.
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I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.
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I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.
Nice to see you're still out there, given'er hell I hope.



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“I think if people enter your home at 3:30 in the morning it's not for a cup of tea and there was probably some nefarious component to the entry,” she said.

“The Criminal Code authorizes people to use as much force as necessary to protect themselves and their property.”

“However, that force must be the minimum amount necessary. Obviously this person had a right to protect himself but the investigation will focus on whether or not he used the minimum amount of force necessary to ensure his safety and that of the other person in the home,” she added.
How interesting to hear that from an RCMP officer. Basil Parasiris is waiting trial for shooting a police officer who dynamically entered his family's home at 5:00 am. that Parasiris took for a home invasion. He's on bail.

Question for the Crown in Montreal -- how does wearing a badge while conducting a home invasion in the early hours of the morning make it a murder if you get killed?

Kindly note that people woken in the dead of the night do not instantly have fully functioning brains and generally react according to primitive instincts.
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I think we should call for a ban of all assault weapons! Seriously though, it's just another use for a good "bear" gun. Say, a Mossberg pump, in 12 Ga?
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My drunken guess is:

Drug deal gone bad. Home invasion victim does 5-10 for manslaughter.

A sh it show that I hope never happens to me.

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If that's your drunken guess try re-reading the article when you're sober. Since the police spokesman said the home invasion didn't appear to be tied to any illicit activity.
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Why don't you guys shelve the macho attitude and grow up. Keeping a shotgun (or any gun) under the bed "to protect the family" is just plain stupid. The possibility of your curious kid blowing their head off far exceeds the risk of a home invasion. I would also never in my life consider having a gunfight in my own home with my family sleeping on the other side of those thin walls/floors.

Even if you shot an intruder dead, we all know the Canadian law surrounding self-defense is fucked. Your much better off going ape-shit with your old high school baseball bat while demonstrating to your wife and kids exactly how Daddy takes out the trash.


Just my two cents, flame on. :rolleyes:
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Some drunk wandered into my place a couple years ago. He took about 5 shots from my paintball gun in the face and he went running out the door. Granted it wasn't a break and enter as I never used to lock my door when I was home small town living and all (the wife always did) But now that I live in the city the dirtbag would be eating more than just paintballs. A man's home is his castle. You wanna come in you better be prepared for what you might encounter.
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The paint-ball gun is also a good idea!
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as long as your a good shot. I'd hate to pepper my walls in paint although I could deal with bad guy blood
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Well, I got along with my an old saying from my cop days;

I'd rather be trialed by 12 than carried by 6

You break into my house, we redefine nightmare....
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Sasquash wrote:Well, I got along with my an old saying from my cop days;

I'd rather be trialed by 12 than carried by 6

You break into my house, we redefine nightmare....
There is nothing wrong with not being a victim. Why can't we (Canadians) get that through our heads?
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bandit1 wrote: I'm sorry but if I have to use my shotgun (it sleeps under the bed) on someone who broke into my house, there will be no hesitation to kill him in order to protect my family.
And just in case Alan Rock is reading this, confirm that the gun sleeps in a gun case, trigger-lock installed?


( :roll: ) Yes, I'm kidding.
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pokaroo wrote:nobody going to bring up the best line of the whole story???


"a 35-year-old man and his 24-year-old girlfriend"


atta boy!

Agreed! Was wondering if anyone was going to pick up on that.
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