epaulettes

brokenwing · Post by **brokenwing** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:25 pm

whats the point?....

Grey_Wolf · Post by **Grey_Wolf** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:30 pm

Same reason why there are 'ranks' in the military

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:35 pm

They're total bull crap...Okay for the airlines. The ones that actually fly jets. For everybody else, especially students eg MFC...they're absolute crap!

brokenwing · Post by **brokenwing** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:49 pm

yeah i understand the whole rank thing, but people know their place, its not like were in a war zone with confusion as to what a person is qualified to do. it just seems like an old tradition, not neccessary in civilian aviation. It seems to me that its more of a "prestige" item, that is supposed to impress the general population. ( not to mention the dudes that go to the bar dressed in uniform to impress the ladies to make up for their total lack in social skills)

Snowgoose · Post by **Snowgoose** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:51 pm

When I worked in a grocery store they payed me to wear a bowtie and apron. When I go to work now they pay me to wear a tie and epaulets (among doing other things) If no ones paying, especially if I'm dropping coin i.e. MFC, I'm wearing jeans.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:56 pm

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e353/ ... 010671.jpg

flightdude1 · Post by **flightdude1** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:16 pm

brokenwing wrote:whats the point?....

Who Cares? If your paid to wear em, wear em...if its your choice, do as you please, if not, then stay in the bush and don't complain......

brokenwing · Post by **brokenwing** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:25 pm

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stl

DA900 · Post by **DA900** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:29 pm

Those who have and those who will. I fly left seat on a 737, but even I just wear a sweater when I can. The epaulettes are meaningless. I find if I have the sweater I do not have to have a clean, or ironed shirt. At the end of the day it will be your paycheque that tell you what kind of a job you are doing. Don't have anything against wearing them, but they don't change who or what you do.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:32 pm

Who Cares? If your paid to wear em, wear em...if its your choice, do as you please, if not, then stay in the bush and don't complain......

Stay in the bush?

WTF does that have to do with epaulettes?

Is a bush pilot below all those wankers who prance around with epaulettes on because they wear them for status?

CID · Post by **CID** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:36 pm

I think pilots should wear a sash and have a cooler hat. Maybe something big enough to carry charts and stuff. You can sew patches on the sash like boyscouts but they would represent airplanes you fly! Oh, and a cape. How can you be a super-hero without a cape?

brokenwing · Post by **brokenwing** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:37 pm

that was the point i was getting at cat.... its all a status thing.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:42 pm

that was the point i was getting at cat.... its all a status thing.

Yes I realize that.

A true aviator is different from a pilot, an aviator flies the airplane safely and without any need for wearing status symbols to advertise who they are.

Airline pilots have to wear a uniform because it is part of the job, most airline pilots hopefully do not feel the " Need " to wear them.

brokenwing · Post by **brokenwing** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:46 pm

understood cat. so cap, how 'bout some more of those ducati girls?. Im not trying to hijack my own thread, but... well hey, some things take priority

The Hammer · Post by **The Hammer** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:51 pm

Cat if your plane carries anymore than 9 people, in a emergency the epaulettes help the sheep distinguish who's in command. In an evac they teach to wear "the hat" outside because it attracts the sheep like flies to shit.

PS I think the lead Lemming wears a hat too.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:03 pm

The Hammer:

When I was in the water bombing business I flew as a lone wolf airplane and we were sent wherever there was a fire flap as well as to S. America.

My crew were my equals in every way ( except pay. ) and when we did real well I used to pay for their entertainment and as part of the show of my appreciation for their hard work I gave them condoms with four gold bars on them......that is real equality.

767 · Post by **767** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:34 pm

How come your all complaining?? I cant wait until I get to wear them, they look cool! And you get to show off.. hehe

auto4 · Post by **auto4** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:42 pm

condom with 4 gold bar on them...Oh yes the small size one....

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:46 pm

Exactly..gold bars tend to sometimes make up for other inadequacy's.

Lurch · Post by **Lurch** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:48 pm

I personally don't gave a rats Ass one way or another if the airlines wear them. Now when flight instructors and student pilots wear them I laugh my ass off, what a bunch of goofs, and the idoits who decide the should wear them need to get their head screwed on right.

Scuba_Steve · Post by **Scuba_Steve** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:08 pm

don't wear em, don't care if I do..

HOWEVER it would be nice to have them when wandering around some town dressed in a shirt + tie and having people think I'm a Jo-ho or a Mormon...THEN I want a fucking set of bars

"I'm not here to convert you to my religion, I'm just driving a king air..."

Out of the 80 or so Pilots at my company only one wears the bars...

Cheers

JohnnyHotRocks · Post by **JohnnyHotRocks** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:13 pm

I find them useful when flying into some shitehole in S.America, Asia, or elsewhere...the epaulettes set the tone when dealing with foreign authorities...they instantly know who is in charge of the flight and who they are to deal with (detain, interrogate, etc...)
It also lets would-be kidnappers know that we are just the stupid pilots, and the real valuable people are the ones in the plain suits.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:27 pm

Johnny, it would be very, very difficult to transit some countries without the bars and stuff.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:00 pm

No one else thought CID's post was effing hilarious?!?

I'd totally wear a sash with all the airplanes I flew sewn on it...

The cape though... Bad idea (anyone whos seen the incredibles will know what I'm talkin about)

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:18 am

I laughed at CID's uniform.

And Cat Driver's Chief Pilot picture.

-istp

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