Collecting money for retirees

tesox2 · Post by **tesox2** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:21 am

Just wondering what other centres take is on collecting $50 from each union member for retirees. Is it a common practice across the country or is this something elective at our centre?

People are retiring from NC with this extra something from the union....?????? Like everything else they get isnt enough....

I personally have an issue with it....

Whats your take?

Seagull · Post by **Seagull** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:33 am

We were asked at QM ACC & the general reply was to not support that idea.

Cheers.

Justin Case · Post by **Justin Case** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:54 am

Most of ours come back to work the next day double-dipping (pension & wage) so I can't imagine that people will chip in $50.

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:11 pm

My personal take is that we make a very good wage, and each and every one of us would not miss $50, I think its somewhat a disgrace we do not support our senior members for their service, but thats my opinion.

Seriously, find me an IFR controller who cannot afford $50

If anything some sort of recognition is in order, not just $50, how about buying them a nice jacket etc, good lord it's pretty sad that with the money we make people say they can't afford that.

tesox2 · Post by **tesox2** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:28 pm

I dont think its about affording it. When an employee gets caught stealing sandwiches that are made in support of local charities and then is having a retirement party held for them a couple months later, its hard to feel supportive of that, its hard to be supporive of the types of jerks that throw out their dirty dishes in a garbage bag that the cleaners have held out...especially when the cleaners are breaking their backs for a lot lower wages...its hard to want to afford $50 for some people who have been playing cards with their feet on tables for the past 15 years of their career... Retirees get their plaque and severence from the company and best wishes parties if they are liked...some have friends that do something a little more than standard, usually because that retiree deserves it...but a standard for retirement...nope, I dont agree.

...if you dont earn respect, you dont deserve respect....to some, good riddance...to others, we are truly sad to see them go, they will get something from me and others who appreciated and respected their service...

Different rant similiar principal...these ridiculous safety magnets and mini flashlights and birthday cards...take the money and donate it to a local charity or some other worthwhile cause...some things here just blow my mind. Throwing the money away...

I feel better now.

husky · Post by **husky** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:31 pm

While I'm not in the ATC union, I have been in other unions that did something similar.

I support the practice if it is to collect money in order to give someone a nice retirement party or gift. If, on the other hand, it's just to give them a lump sum of cash...this I do no support whatsoever.

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:48 pm

I haven't heard of this one.......just what is the money being collected for?

jetboy1975 · Post by **jetboy1975** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:21 pm

We chip in $20 each, more if you want to, but it is totally optional. It is put into a pot and who or how much they donated is anonymous.

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:24 pm

tesox2 wrote:to some, good riddance...to others, we are truly sad to see them go, they will get something from me and others who appreciated and respected their service

Amen brother.......amen.

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:37 pm

I do fully agree that some people likely don't deserve as much as some of their co-workers.

The fact of the matter is, they are card carrying members from 35+ years for most of them.

I also agree that it should never be cash, perhaps a party, a nice jacket, something of the like.

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:21 am

Wow.

You should be a politician.

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:53 pm

Jerricho wrote:Wow.

You should be a politician.

Sorry, as a politician I wouldn't be as readily able to make such obvious attempts at unique dry British humour with such a charming attitude!

Does your last name happen to be Meldrew?

KAFUFO · Post by **KAFUFO** » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:21 pm

no names

secondly cough up the money you cheap skate

tesox2 · Post by **tesox2** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:24 am

Inverted...what kind of jacket do you want?

tesox2 · Post by **tesox2** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:33 am

KAFUFO wrote:no names

secondly cough up the money you cheap skate

Victor Meldrew was a British drama character on One foot in the Grave...its a name synonymous with several character personality traits (generally not positive)...

Secondly, I am no Jack-the-Smith

squibbler · Post by **squibbler** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:23 am

Jerricho wrote:Wow.

You should be a politician.

If that's British humour then I'm an Australian.

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:29 am

1. I'm not British. If you're going to make a piss poor attempt at trying to be insulting, and incorporating a reference to nationality is all you've got, at least try to ascertain the correct one.

2. How did you know I was referring to you, Mr Attitude? Talk about paranoia.

3. Why don't you run off to another thread, commence by posting some inane drivel, get called on it, and try to backpedal/flipflop/change the connotation like you always do. Have the stones to stand by what you say, not "uh, uh listen to me, I know what I'm talking about.......uh,uh I can't speak for everyone just me........ but I'm going to try".

4. Next time you try to be funny, or condescending, or whatever you were attempting, how's about you show what you're going to post to somebody else just to make sure. Standing by for some obscure reference of a knife, or a Dingo eating a baby.

My apologies to the thread originator for Mr Attitude. He really does try, bless him.

P.S. You wish Mr Squibbler........you wish

tesox2 · Post by **tesox2** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:40 am

I'm adjusting to the non-commital opinions...its seems to be a much more common trait amongst people...its the new thing to agree *but not really*, in the interest someones feeling might get hurt. IA, grow some nutz, say what you think...not what you think is the best answer amongst a majority.

PS. I miss passionate people.

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:40 am

I wholeheartedly sort of agree..............

P.S. You still suck.

Scilian Sausage · Post by **Scilian Sausage** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:02 am

FFS jerrico, go easy on the poor guy you wanker. I believe that's the word you use.

tesox2 · Post by **tesox2** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:22 am

I still suck?????

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:25 am

No, what I mean is........uhhh.......not actually you and not actually sucking, but.........uhhh........

invertedattitude · Post by **invertedattitude** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:02 am

It's still a shame they haven't invented a [sarcasm][/sarcasm] option.

I love everyone here.

I'm glad someone knows who Victor Meldrew was, comic genious.

I still think putting some money together for someone retiring shouldn't really be a debate, we all put far more money into taxes, and as we all know taxes go to the most needy and deserving projects and people...

tesox2 · Post by **tesox2** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:20 am

Needy people suck, I want my 50 bucks for another tattoo session.

Jerricho · Post by **Jerricho** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:49 am

invertedattitude wrote:and as we all know taxes go to the most needy and deserving projects and people...

See, now that's got humor. Who did you get to help you with that? Tesox?

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