Inglish Proficcincey Exam???

[Cat Driver]

Yeh, I'm English, Scottish and Mic Mac my grandfather married an Indian so TC had better watch what the fu.k they do to me or I'll get my Indian brothers and sisters to raise proper hell...

There is some advantage to being a status Injun..

[MichaelP]

There is some advantage to being a status Injun

Oh No! We'll have a school teaching in Tomahawks out of Seven Potatoes airport on the Island...
Does Piper Aircraft have a special status here as well?
And who has higher special status, Aboriginals or Quebecois?

I wonder about me... I have no aboriginal status anywhere since I'm the product of many tribes...
I wonder who could claim aboriginal status in England?
This is a new thing... In the past there were conquests and people were forced to conform to a new order...
On a tiny island off Europe they were rebellious and failed to conform but all kinds of tribes combined and interbred. The only troublesome tribes are the Celts, and the Picts... There's some trouble with the Britons too, but overall there's harmony amongst the peoples... That is until the Islamic nutcases came on the scene and decided to bomb in the name of their god!
Then there's the EEC trying to put its mark on those rebels who gave their language to aviation!

But one thing that is assured in that little island it's people have simple rules to live by and it's one hell of a lot easier to start a flying business than it is in Canada, the land of laws, laws, and more laws, as Canada aspires to political correctness and a perfect obedient compliant society with no balls left to doing anything individualistic.

[Cat Driver]

as Canada aspires to political correctness and a perfect obedient compliant society with no balls left to doing anything individualistic.

Hey Michael I wonder what part of me gets credit for not bending over to thugs, the English..the Scottish or the Injun?

[angry inch]

Now that the Language Proficiency Exam has been implemented, I have a question to those who administer, or who have taken the exam..

Has there been a fee associated with this exam? If so, what is it?? It just seems like a potential for a "cash grab"...

[Airtids]

Consensus seems to be $100. I've heard as high as $300 in the interior. i'm combining it with the R.O.C. to try and add a little more value.

[Hedley]

Wouldn't anyone that can pass the PSTAR (or
any other DOT written exam, for that matter)
have already demonstrated language proficiency?

Heck, even native English speakers have great
difficulty comprehending some of the questions
on the tests.

Imagine if you have to write all your written
tests over again, in Mandarin!!

[Airtids]

While someone may be very able to comprehend the written language sufficiently to pass the PSTAR, etc., clearly comprehending strictly verbal communication (as in pilot controller, vice versa) can be a totally different scenario, especially when things are abnormal.

[miss soufrits]

Has there been a fee associated with this exam? If so, what is it?? It just seems like a potential for a "cash grab"...

As a very new pilot (just passed my checkride on sunday) I have been informed that I need to pass this english proficiency exam tomorrow morning before my school can issue my license. I have not been informed as to a cost but will let you know as I am certain there is a fee.
I do find it a little ridiculous that a student pilot, born in canada, first language being english, having already been let loose solo (obviously speaking on the radio without any aid), passing the radio exam with 98%, the pstar 100%, tc ppl written 80% and recieving 4 on my flight test for radio communication having to do such a test.
I dont dissagree with such a test as there have been many times i have heard folks on the radio that most likely would not be able to pass an english class let alone an english proficiency exam and i do believe it necessary for everyone to be on the same page up there but common...maybe this should be included in the oral part of the radio exam?
I recieved a test guide this evening outlining the details of the exam and I believe it a little insulting to some peoples intelligence...then again i am probably just bitter because its sitting between me finally recieving my ppl...

[Cat Driver]

I do find it a little ridiculous that a student pilot, born in canada, first language being english, having already been let loose solo (obviously speaking on the radio without any aid), passing the radio exam with 98%, the pstar 100%, tc ppl written 80% and recieving 4 on my flight test for radio communication having to do such a test

It is simple, the people responsible for this are morons.

[miss soufrits]

The fee was 50 dollars...and i passed...who knew?!