Any TIPS for the class 4????

[ski_bum]

Howdy Folks,

I am just about to start my class 4 instructor rating and am wondering if anyone has any tips that they can pass on to me regarding the trainning...

Any pointers would be great

Ski Bum

[TopperHarley]

Dont wait until the last minute to start your lesson plans! Trust me, they are not as easy to write up as you think they are. Also, use as many sources as you can (dont just rely on the FTM or From the Ground Up). Basically, make sure you know your stuff!!

I also recommend you try to practice your lesson plans on your bro/sis or on a friend. See if they can follow along (after all, you will be teaching this stuff to people who know nothing at all about flying). Also, try to speak in front of a mirror.

When I did my lesson plans, I'd first make a rough draft, then I'd do a good copy. This way, you can organize your thoughts and ideas better.

Good luck with the rating! I enjoyed it very much, but it does require a lot of work and committment (I found it to be much more difficult and time consuming than the MIFR).

[Phsyco SID]

As you develop your PGI's keep a copy of them on disk...Reason being as time goes by things constantly change...It will make it really easy to make corrections if they are on disk...Also use the instructors at the fligth school as much as possible...Ask lots and lots of questions!...Consider your instructor rating as a 3-4 month job interview. Dress right, keep a positive attitude, dont be late, and prepare yourself for long hours.

Good Luck, have fun and be safe

[hz2p]

1) know your stuff. Research what you don't know.

2) during ground instruction, don't just drone on endlessly, open-loop style. Observe the student to see if they're getting it. Learn to ask questions to confirm student knowledge. Involve the student as much as possible. It will keep them awake.

[Cat Driver]

Ski_bum :

Bear in mind that the you must parrot all the stuff that you will be taught if you are to pass the test by your TC flight training inspector.

There is some good advice here such as ......

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(after all, you will be teaching this stuff to people who know nothing at all about flying).

It is especially important to suspect that the above comment also holds true for the TC Inspector, so do not try and use common sense or logic in your presentation to the Inspector as it may only tend to confuse him / her and they will fail you. This is of course to be expected as it is a normal reaction for someone to use their power to control when faced with their own inadequacy's. So just stick to the program and do not spook them by showing you are capable of rational thought.

If you learn all the stuff that the school teaches you and then regurgtitate it word for word you will pass.

Here is another not to well known phenomena........

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" As you develop your PGI's keep a copy of them on disk...Reason being as time goes by things constantly change... "

There will be many changes as you progress in flight training, very few people understand that things like physics, aerodymanics and most important the skills needed to cope with these constantly changing issues must be compensated for by keeping track of these changes... Hell after all these years I never knew it before.........

So good luck, and remember it is all about learning what they want you to say and then accurately regurtitating it to the inspector.

Now go fool e'm by learning their mantras tiger......

Cat

[Flyin' Hi]

Talk to other instructors at the flight school who have recently done their instructor rating. They will usually have good advise that can help you out with your training. One tidbit that I was told, is that even if you don't agree with something, or it doesn't make sense to you, if that is what transport wants to hear, that's what you say. After they sign off your license, then you can start doing things your own way if you want to.

[Vickers vanguard]

This is of course to be expected as it is a normal reaction for someone to use their power to control when faced with their own inadequacy's. at

It's 3 a.m while I'm reading this.......and it's just hilarious.....some people are so skilled in mixing comedy and reality !

[SkyHighOne]

Hey Ski Bum,

I've been instructing for just under 4 years now, and I've discovered of the best things that I think EVERY new Class IV should do: attend the next available Instructor Refresher Course by Transport Canada!

It was truly an amazing experience to be in the company of so many highly experienced pilots and instructors in an "off the record" and fun setting, learning information that is so specifically relevant to instructing in Canada, getting to hear all of Transport's examiners and what they really think, and not to mention hanging out and sharing stories with other newly graduated instructors... And the best part is, it's free (even the stay at the hotel was discounted)! You just gotta spare the three days to go.

The Refresher Courses aren't just for renewing your rating; they're a great experience and no matter what level of instructor you are, you will learn a lot and not regret going! I wish I had gone as soon as I'd gotten my rating. If we all support them and keep the attendance up, Transport will continue to hold them.

Good luck, congrats on your new rating, and have fun!
Jennifer Lyons
CFI, Parallel Victoria

[Cat Driver]

Hi there Jennifer :

I read your recommendation about how beneficial the refresher course is and especially this observation that you made....

" It was truly an amazing experience to be in the company of so many highly experienced pilots and instructors "

I am looking foward to seeing some of the people that will come off the assembly line now that there is someone who may know how to teach the students how to fly.

I am working with a newly licensed pilot that is buying an airplane and I am appaled at the lack of understanding that this person has in something as basic and important as to how to judge height in the landing phase of flight.

So I am looking foward to seeing some pilots that can actually fly when they get their PPL.

Any idea when all this will start?

Cat

[Cat Driver]

" Cat Driver wrote:

This is of course to be expected as it is a normal reaction for someone to use their power to control when faced with their own inadequacy's. at


It's 3 a.m while I'm reading this.......and it's just hilarious.....some people are so skilled in mixing comedy and reality !"

Nazim.B :

Sadly the reality is far from hilarious, there are far to many examples of TC flight Inspectors who use their power as a club to make up for their own inadequacy's, these perverted examples of society get into TC flight training and they have found the perfect protected job to use fear as a tool when examining some poor student who wants only to become an instructor.

We have one out here who is feared and loathed by anyone who has been one of his victims.

I kicked the SOB off my property some years ago and phoned his superior...all I got was jerked off and a promice he would never again be allowed to contact me.......to bad more people don't do the same thing.

Complaining to his superiors gets you nowhere because their system will collapse if they do not protect their own. It is incredible that these creatures are allowed to keep on miss-using their power to make people grovel to them if they want to pass their examination.

If these creatures were in private enterprise no employer could ever afford to keep them.

I'm betting that many readers of this thread will identify the Inspector that I am refeering to.

Sooner or later he will get to be in charge of a department and the level of service from TC will just keep spiraling downward.

Cat

[ski_bum]

Thanks everyone for these great tips, i think they will help out along the way,

NOW IF ONLY MY CAR WOULD START..... DAM PRARIE WEATHER