Cherokee 140 on Floats

nofixedaddress · Post by **nofixedaddress** » Fri May 30, 2008 6:41 pm

Anyone ever attempted to fly one on floats or seen one on floats? I got a call to fly one off a 2100 foot strip off a dolly. Seems like a suicide mission to me, anyone have any experience with this, either off the dolly or flying the plane on floats in general?

The runway has trees and wires at one end and a water tower at the other....... closest lake is about a 5 minute drive by car.

Thoughts?

just curious · Post by **just curious** » Fri May 30, 2008 7:55 pm

I'm hoping said lake is on a hill.

cessnafloatflyer · Post by **cessnafloatflyer** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:09 pm

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cessnafloatflyer · Post by **cessnafloatflyer** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:10 pm

I flew my 180 off a dolly at Chilliwack last year -- pm me and i can fill you in.

Jungle Jim · Post by **Jungle Jim** » Fri May 30, 2008 8:48 pm

There's one at Barrie /Springwater also on floats. I believe there is a problem in that the 140 was never certified for float operations. This one has 180 landing gear attach fittings but again there might be a paperwork problem.

The other thought is that with the 150 hp engine and an airfoil design that isn't really suited for high lift/lower speeds, this plane may only be good for going for a boat ride when loaded.

Jim

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Fri May 30, 2008 9:41 pm

Low wing Pipers on floats? Okay, I've seen a Cherokee 6 and an Aztec on floats...that's it though.

Strega · Post by **Strega** » Fri May 30, 2008 10:51 pm

Why not?

I see no reason it wouldnt work..

PS the cherokee 180 and 140 have the same gear (wheels) including attach points

CJ3PILOT · Post by **CJ3PILOT** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:25 am

There was 2 of them on Hamilton bay about 20 years plus ago.I have also seen one in Sault Ste Marie passing through.They were like a cessna 172 on floats with 150 hp they sucked.

J31 · Post by **J31** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:18 am

nofixedaddress wrote:Anyone ever attempted to fly one on floats or seen one on floats? I got a call to fly one off a 2100 foot strip off a dolly. Seems like a suicide mission to me, anyone have any experience with this, either off the dolly or flying the plane on floats in general?

The runway has trees and wires at one end and a water tower at the other....... closest lake is about a 5 minute drive by car.

Thoughts?

That would be a short strip on wheels let alone floats of a dolly! Far too short with the obstacles. With the Cherokee 140 with a short wing span just trailer it to the lake….the police are usually more that accommodating.

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:53 am

Has it been flown out of there before? Talk to the last guy who did it. Find out why he doesn't want to do it this time.

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Sat May 31, 2008 2:40 pm

You can't do it. Some other dummy is slated to auger in this week - not your week.

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Sat May 31, 2008 4:27 pm

nofixedaddress,

May I suggest, just pass and stay away from trouble. This seems a bit risky to me. It's not a type of aircraft to try that kind of stuff.

nofixedaddress · Post by **nofixedaddress** » Sat May 31, 2008 5:22 pm

No worries, I'm staying away, I never even intended to fly it off the dolly, I was more looking for someone who was crazy enough to try it while I watch with my feet firmly on the ground. Or at least someone who has maybe tried it somewhere else to see their thoughts. I am going to reccommend the trailer to the lake eary in the am and than go from there.

I'll let you know how it goes and maybe post some pics of the adventure!

Cheers

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Sat May 31, 2008 5:34 pm

I'd like to see how it flies out of a lake

SeptRepair · Post by **SeptRepair** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:22 pm

Heck, I would even like to see just a pic of one.

Big Pistons Forever · Post by **Big Pistons Forever** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:53 pm

PA 28 on floats....Who in the float business could have possibly thought this was a good idea

Siddley Hawker · Post by **Siddley Hawker** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:37 pm

PA 28 on floats....Who in the float business could have possibly thought this was a good idea

There was room for his ass and a gallon of gas, comes to mind.

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:25 pm

PA 28 on floats....Who in the float business could have possibly thought this was a good idea

A not-overwight American in Florida

Blakey · Post by **Blakey** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:42 pm

There are few interesting types on Doug Ronan's float plane site.

http://www.dougronan.com/ontario/images ... ctures.htm

The Cherokee is a 180 model from Australia and, while it looks like it's out of it's element, it doesn't look half as scary as the Aero-Coupe below it!

niss · Post by **niss** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:37 am

I have to swing by the airport today so I will take a pic. Its completely experimental and its the 140 so I highly doubt she has the power to get up in 2100.

It is quite the site to see.

Maybe if we all push.

niss · Post by **niss** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:50 am

nofixedaddress · Post by **nofixedaddress** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:30 pm

I'll be flying that bird in a few weeks.....I'll be sure to let everyone know how powerful and how good its performance is!!!!

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:52 pm

Hello Nofix,

Can't wait for your comments about the only door being on the right and the dock on your side! Imagine a tailwind or a downstream current now...arghhh

Dr. Mcillicuddy · Post by **Dr. Mcillicuddy** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:22 pm

Simply put, it sounds like putting whipped cream on horse shit. My opion only.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:31 pm

Hmmmm, as I recall the wing on most Pipers is a very efficient lifting device at low airspeeds.....

.......I'm interested in seeing how this machine performs.

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