How much time on type would it take, on average, to convert a line pilot from:
Considering, insurance requirements, TC requirements, what ever other variables you can think of.....
1.A piston aircraft single to a turbine single
2.A piston aircraft twin to a turbine single
3.A piston twin to a turbine twin
4.A turbine twin to a twin jet
???
Thanks
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How much conversion training to be competent?
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Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
Its basically just getting a type rating on a specific type - 3 weeks, approximately.
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Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
Navajo to a kingair, the flying time is the least of it. I can get a monkey to the point where they can pass a PPC ride with 10 hours, or an experienced pilot in five.
But the important part, the ground training and SOPs is where most operators fall down. I figure 3 weeks is about right. Scrimp on the ground training and they trainee is gonna screw somwthing in the operation up.
But the important part, the ground training and SOPs is where most operators fall down. I figure 3 weeks is about right. Scrimp on the ground training and they trainee is gonna screw somwthing in the operation up.
Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
"Competency" is one of those nebulous issues.
Just because a candidate passes a checkride does not necessarily mean they're compentent in the a/c. In the sense of training for a checkride, just curious has it covered. In the sense of personal competency, I think the general span is 50-100 hours in type to feel confident.
Just because a candidate passes a checkride does not necessarily mean they're compentent in the a/c. In the sense of training for a checkride, just curious has it covered. In the sense of personal competency, I think the general span is 50-100 hours in type to feel confident.
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Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
That is a fair estimate of when you should feel comfortable in it Flybabe, confident may be a iffy description because it can lead to over confidence and the possibility of the airplane out thinking you.I think the general span is 50-100 hours in type to feel confident.
The PPC is a focused check of what one can repeat and regurgitate in a controlled environment, the PPC passee can be a disaster once out on their own if the only measurement of their ability is the PPC.
Then again I'm getting senile and could be out to lunch completely.
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After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
That's pretty much it, .. "Confident" is also a nebulous term, so my use of it is just to fill the slot for this topic. LOL.
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Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
The most difficult thing about flying is knowing when to say no.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying I can not remember even one trip that I refused to do that resulted in someone getting killed because of my decision not to fly.
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Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
Thanks for the valuable information.
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Re: How much conversion training to be competent?
First of all, I am not disagreeing at all with what has been posted. I would like to add a bit though.
We found, for some reason, that around the 100 hour mark on types, pilots get into some really bad habits.
Not sure of the reason, maybe they get comfortable and lazy. In any event, it is such a noticeable issue that we do a recurrent course at about 100 hours (six-eight weeks after the original) to review all the emergency procedures, SOP's, and a line check. After that point pilots seem to get it pretty much right for the balance of the year.
We found, for some reason, that around the 100 hour mark on types, pilots get into some really bad habits.
Not sure of the reason, maybe they get comfortable and lazy. In any event, it is such a noticeable issue that we do a recurrent course at about 100 hours (six-eight weeks after the original) to review all the emergency procedures, SOP's, and a line check. After that point pilots seem to get it pretty much right for the balance of the year.
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