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Twin Otter falls 1,000 feet

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Was there a thread earlier about this incident?

http://aviation-safety.net/database/rec ... 20080405-0

"The ski equipped DHC-6-300 aircraft, operating as flight SPR971, was on a flight from Nain Airport, NF (YDP) to deposit a cache of seven fuel drums on a frozen lake 86 miles north of Nain. After arriving at the coordinates given for the fuel cache, the crew considered a couple of lakes for the landing. On the first lake selected, the crew conducted a touch-and-go to test the conditions and found them unacceptable. On the second lake, while conducting a touch-and-go, the nose gear struck a snow bank and broke off. The aircraft came to a stop approximately 100 feet further on. The tie-down ring securing the fuel drum broke and the fuel drums moved forward up against the cockpit bulkhead. There were no injuries to the two crew and to the one passenger who was seated behind the fuel drums in the rear of the aircraft. The area was described as treeless and featureless.
A few weeks after the mishap a helicopter arrived to transport the plane back to a location more suitable for repairs. At a height of about 300 m the helicopter's sling broke. The Twin Otter fell down and was damaged beyond repair as a result."
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Ouch :shock:
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Colibri wrote:Ouch :shock:
That's putting it lightly... how the hell does that happen?

Reminds of when the Canadian Helicopters dude dropped the brand new half mill drill in M.R. ... I think the rigger got blamed for that one.

Who's responsible for the f**k up here??
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C'mon, someone has to have a video of this....
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Ok here it is.....ohhhhhhhhh snap! :smt040
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wasn't that in a TC safety letter a little while back???
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This remind me of an urban !? story/legend.

A C-152 did a forced landing in a field and was to be picked up later on by a chopper.
They forgot to 'wood board' its wings to break lift and as soon as the helicopter get its forward movement, C-152 below became a giant kite.
To a point when it came near the side of the cockpit, it scared the sh!t of the pilot (probably discovering the problem at the same time) which in turn pushed the release button!

...Letting it crash a second time...

True or not, it make up of a nice story anyway. :mrgreen:
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TG wrote:True or not, it make up of a nice story anyway.
You know what they say, never let the truth get in the way of a good story. :D
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Austin Airways had a single Otter go into the trees north of Pickle Lake in 85 or so. Midwest slung it out, after a lot of prep work, but... that hole that goes through the fuselage just forward of the tail? Apparently it isn't for slinging. It went in from 500 feet in front of the Pickle Lake dock with an admiring crowd watching the procedings. I dimly recall the ELT was still in the machine, and it went off again.
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I watched a helicopter drop a boat once. We were hauling fuel into a fishing camp with the DC-3 on skis, and the operator of the camp wanted us to bring in an aluminum boat. It was too big to go in the cargo door on the 3, so he got one of the company's Bell 47's to try and sling it. They had it slung by the two cleats on the transom. No problem to lift it, but when he transitioned to forward the thing began to swing back and forth like a pendulum. The guy dropped it onto the bow from about a hundred feet. Shortened the boat by a foot or so when it hit the ground. :)
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Speaking of dropping things..

Was talking to a US Army Chinook pilot here in Afghanistan last week, he dropped a 20,000lb Jet Fuel bladder onto a hillside a few years ago - IN GERMANY.... Ouch...

I asked what he did about it, and the answer was, "Nothing, just kept flying..." Classic.

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I watched a CF-101 Voodoo get dumped from underneath a Chinook helicopter. It was being transfered from a storage depot to an airbase to be refurbished for display. It started to swing forward and aft. It got to the point where the Voodoo was nearly vertical. Luckily when they released it, they were over water and not any houses. A few years later, my friend, who had witnessed this with me, met the pilot of the Chinook. The pilot told him they were only moments away from loosing control of the helicopter. He said nothing was scarier than seeing the topside of the Voodoo in front of them.
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2 years ago, I think it's Air Boreal,(the company owned by Jean-Marie Arsenault) lost there turbo otter when it was being sling by a helicopter company. The plane had been damaged by Air Saguenay's turbo otter who hit that plane (which was simply parked) on landing. I think that case is still in court for who is gonna pay for it!!!
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On the moose being droped. If Rocky was flying. Bullwinkle would be alive today!
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Vortex_driver wrote:2 years ago, I think it's Air Boreal,(the company owned by Jean-Marie Arsenault) lost there turbo otter when it was being sling by a helicopter company. The plane had been damaged by Air Saguenay's turbo otter who hit that plane (which was simply parked) on landing. I think that case is still in court for who is gonna pay for it!!!
Detail InformationUser Name: Porlier, Nathalie
Date: 2006/05/10
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.: Commercial & Business Aviation
Narrative: Update #1: The occurrence type was changed from "incident" to "accident." **** ** **** Mise à jour #1: Modification de la catégorie "incident" pour "accident"

User Name: Leduc, Michel
Date: 2006/08/02
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.:
Narrative: Selon le rapport du BST #A06Q0070, Le DHC3 sur ski, immatriculé C-FODT et exploité par Air Saguenay, en provenance de Chibougamau a atterri sur la piste de glace à Lac Lagopède. Lors du roulement à l'atterrissage, l'appareil n'a pu s'arrêter à temps et a percuté un autre DHC3 immatriculé C-FKLC exploité par Nordair Québec 2000 Inc qui était stationné sur la piste, moteur fermé. Le bord d'attaque de l'aile gauche du C-FODT a subi des dommages importants. L'aile droite du C-FKLC a été arrachée lors de la collision. Ni les occupants du C-FODT ni le pilote du C-FKLC qui se trouvait à son bord n'ont été blessés. ***** According to the TSB report A06Q0070, the DHC3 on skis, registered C-FODT and operated by Air Saguenay, inbound from Chibougamau, landed on the ice runway at Lac Lagopède. During the landing roll, the aircraft was unable to stop in time, and struck another DHC3, registered C-FKLC and operated by Nordair Québec 2000 Inc. which was parked on the runway, with the engine shut down. The left wing leading edge on C-FODT was substantially damaged. The right wing of C-FKLC was ripped off in the collision. Neither of the occupants of C-FODT, nor the pilot of C-FKLC who was on board, was injured.

User Name: Porlier, Nathalie
Date: 2006/10/20
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.: Commercial & Business Aviation
Narrative: Update #2: Following the accident, the aircraft C-FKLC was supposed to be transported by helicopter. C-FKLC was dropped, falling several meters. Nordair Québec 2000 purchased another aircraft—C-FSVP. **** ** **** Mise à jour #2: Suite à l'accident, l'aéronef C-FKLC devait être transporté par hélicoptère. C-FKLC a été échappé, subissant une chute de plusieurs mètres. La compagnie Nordair Québec 2000 a fait l'acquisition d'un autre aéronef, soit C-FSVP.
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Narrative: Le Bell 205A-1 immatriculé C-FSMI exploité par Héli-Inter, avec le pilote seul occupant à bord, transportait en élingue la carlingue d'un Turbo Otter du camp Mirage à la base de LG-4. En vol le pilote a ressenti une forte secousse suivie d'une seconde et a aperçu l'avion se décrocher pour tomber et s'écraser au sol. Le pilote a survolé l'endroit puis est retourné vers le camp Mirage pour rapporter l'événement. Il n'y a eu aucune blessure ni aucun dommage de rapportés à l'hélicoptère. ***** The Bell 205A-1, registered C-FSMI and operated by Héli-Inter, with only the pilot on board, was sling-carrying the cabin of a Turbo Otter from the Mirage camp to the LG-4 base. While in flight, the pilot felt a strong bump followed by a second one, and saw the airplane detach from the helicopter and fall and crash on the ground. The pilot flew over the spot and returned to the Mirage camp to report the event. There were no injuries or damage reported to the helicopter.

And one that happened in Yellowknife a few years ago...
Detail InformationUser Name: Ridley, Rod
Date: 2006/05/01
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O.P.I.: System Safety
Narrative: C-GVVI, a Bell 204, took off from the Great Slave helipad at Yellowknife airport with a sling load and proceded northwest on the 332 degree radial. Ten miles out, the pilot advised that his load had been lost (pontoon boat) and the helicopter was returning to CYZF. C-GVVI landed at the helipad without incident.

User Name: Ridley, Rod
Date: 2006/05/04
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.: System Safety
Narrative: UPDATE TSB reported that the Great Slave Helicopters Bell 204B, C-GVVI was slinging a thirty-two foot pontoon boat from Yellowknife to Point Lake, NT. About 10 NM north of Yellowknife, the load released from the helicopter, fell onto uninhabited rocky outcrops, and was destroyed. A failure in the boat's aluminum skin structure had occurred in the vicinity of the welded sling gear attachment fittings.
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Re: Twin Otter falls 1,000 feet

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I'm not sure whether all the loads falling from under the hook speaks to the pilot flying the load or the load being carried, but a few years back we salvaged a twin otter whole from the river it ended up in, to an airport 126 miles away and everything got there in one piece (minus what we lost in the river). In fact it flew like a dream on the line, had it not been so smokey we'd have had some excellent pictures. I'm sure glad we didn't read about any of these other events before we went or things may have been done slightly different.
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Re: Twin Otter falls 1,000 feet

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Well, it's not as dramatic as falling airplanes... but here's a C208 being recovered, sans wings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjn4ZQZjmoE
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