Anyone had an T.C. interview any info would help!

[Buddy1]

Anyone have any information about T.C. interviews and the exams they have you complete prior to interview. For an inspector position? Thank you.

[Prairie Chicken]

What division of TC? CBA? Enforcement? M&M?

First, and most importantly, get what used to be called the Statement of Qualification (S of Q), and now is referred to as the "Statement of Merit Criteria". Read very carefully, as the entire interview and hiring process is based on this, and during the interview they may only ask questions pertaining to the merit criteria. Now, having said that, the criteria tends to be really broad. Search Gov't of Can websites and determine exactly what is meant by the terms in the Merit Criteria. Or, contact an HR officer and ask specific questions. What do THEY mean when they refer to "values" and "ethics"? YOU know what that means to you, but you need to know the definition of what it means to THEM. Think back to your own history and be prepared to give examples of how you have applied "values" and "ethics" in your past life.

Phone & talk to any inspector who has recently gone thru the interview process, if possible, and preferably in the region you're applying in. Phone and talk to an inspector--any inspector--preferably in the division you're applying for, even if in a different region. Ask what they do on a day to day basis. Ask what policy & procedures manuals you as a member of the public can obtain & review. Talk to more than one if you can. If this sounds a bit different than industry, it probably is, but I think you'll find most inspectors right up to the person who will be interviewing you to be more than willing help if you take the initiative to contact them.

Needless to say, some understanding and appreciation for SMS is going to come into play. Review TC web sites and Flight 2010 to learn the key catch phrases.

In the old days TC interviews asked questions about how to do the job you're applying for. I hear they've smartened up, and now ask questions in terms of how you have dealt with an issue in the past. For example, give an example of how you applied "ethics" and "values" with a sensitive issue in past positions.

That's a start. Short story, don't go into the interview relying on how well you can fly a 747 (or whatever). They don't care. They want to know if, as captain of that 747, you were able to wisely apply your knowledge, skills, abilities, ethics, etc., etc. to the position. If satisfied that you're the right candidate, they'll teach you the applicable technical aspects of the job.

Good luck, and post if you have more specific questions.

[just curious]

You might wish to review past personal events, disasters, or simple 'learning moments'.

Sort through a couple and see if you can, with some detachment actually discern what you took from the experience both ethically, and morally.

During the interview when the question of 'learning moments' arises (problem with a supervisor, customer, co-pilot, captain), don't end the discussion with ".... But it wasn't my fault!"

DO your homework on situational-based interviews. As Prairie Chicken said, get hold of the zillion available on-line manuals. You don't have to memorize them, but a passing knowledge of Audits, dress code, authorized person details, delegation, SMS... Try to find a question to ask based on each of them.

Remember, perhaps a few inspectors came across from the Forces as Check Pilots, or Safety Officers, but by and large they were simple drivers whose backs and hearing started to go.

Some references:
http://www.icao.int/anb/safetymanagement/Documents.html Icao guidlines for SMS Manual Development
http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Publications/menu.htm TP9865 Simulator Manual TP11825 Delegated Authority, TP13739 Intro to SMS, TP385 Commercial and Business Aviation Dangerous Goods Inspector's Manual, TP 3783 Air Carrier Inspector Manual, TP 6533 Approved Check Pilot Manual , TP 7886 Civil Aviation Safety Inspector - Occupational Safety and Health (CASI-OSH) Manual, TP 8606 Inspection and Audit Manual, TP 13794 Aviation Enforcement Policy Manual , TP 14727 Pilot Proficiency Check and Aircraft Type Rating Flight Test Guide (Aeroplane)

A little light reading for you.

JC

[mag check]

Just let them know that you have already had the lobotomy, they will be pleased that they don't have to spend the money

[5x5]

Just let them know that you have already had the lobotomy, they will be pleased that they don't have to spend the money

Geez, if it's not right to pay for a PPC, it can't be right to pay for your own lobotomy.

[Hedley]

I personally suspect that being in the employ of any
government bureaucracy would be a thoroughly soul-
destroying experience, but I may be wrong.

[just curious]

A minor segue off topic sure, but getting completely off, and grumpy about it??? I vaporized a half dozen non-responsive posts. Still grumpy? Cry me a river.
JC

[xsbank]

JC, I actually applied for one of those jobs, but I think its a bit draconian to toast me for not falling down and squirting every time I think of 'government service.' I just never explained how I would be the Next Saviour of TC, how I'd clean house, how I'd hire Widow as my assistant until she got a Commercial, then she would take over the Director-General's job and I would retire with huge fanfare (and pension) and dedicate my waning years to annoying The Mods here.

Besides, if Croissant can call me a cracker and his posts survive, why can't I continue to be really restrained and well-mannered and refuse to call him an as*hole?

[Croissant Wrench]

Buddy1 et al

You may be given a couple of choices for an ad lib presentation to the interview panel at the beginning of the interview process. The presentation assumes you are speaking to a group of non-aviation people and the topic you choose will be an aviation related subject. For example, you might have to explain airspace structure or flight theory.

So the key is to choose the subject you feel most comfortable with and just demonstrate your ability to communicate basically in layman terms.

PS...just so I don't have to reply to the peanut gallery, I know this information because I know everything!!!

[just curious]

Actually, X, I was about to torch his too, but my ride showed up. I'll get him and his little dog too.

JC

[xsbank]

JC:

[Panama Jack]

This thread gives weight to the theory that any intelligent, informative discussion involving the words "Transport Canada" brings the usual suspects out of the woodwork and loweres the discussion thread into the sewer within the first 3 or 4 posts.

[xsbank]

Like Global Warming, definitely a theory.

How many of you nimrods flapping your arms here have suggested this might be a way to "change Transport for the better," "fly those Beech-things like they were meant to fly," "maybe save one more pilot from death," or "God I love those all-day meetings with lunch thrown in so we don't have to take abreak and we might even get an hour overtime or fly to Edmonton." Not "I get to be home every night," "I've got Beaver-back so this will help," "love that pension."

What twaddle. Hypocrites.

[Croissant Wrench]

more wisdom from XS

[Cat Driver]

Hi Croissant Wrench I guess you haven't read my thread dealing with the working conditions in the Pacific Region, I was hoping after you read the report by Bonita Smith you would share your thoughts with us and give us your take on it.

I have copied my post to you here so you can visit the thread and let us know what your opinion of the working conditions would be under the present management.

Post subject: Re: Working conditions.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:00 pm



Croissant Wrench you have been very helpful in commenting on the interview process thread, what is your opinion on what it might be like working in the Pacific Region?

Looking forward to your thoughts on this.

Cat:

[Croissant Wrench]

Buddy1, pm me and I'll try to help you as best I can as I have some good contacts, the AVCanada crackers have invaded this thread and there is no way it can ever be salvaged.

[xsbank]

I'm strangely gratified that C.W. has become so exercised over my posts. It seems I have a penchant for drawing out those with a narrow view on things and intolerance in general. If you would like to continue in this vein, C.W., I'm sure that the rest on here would be thrilled to hear some more of what you've got to say. I am willing to keep on posting on this topic as long as I have raised some interest and unlike yourself, I have not sent you any rude PMs - everyone who cares to can read what I post. If you don't like my attitude, my age, my shape or anything I post (or whatever), The Bat is always obvious and it is your right to ignore me.

Or JC can toast me, which is his prerogative.

Anyway, TC carries more weight with us than the average government agency and it is extremely annoying to find that some here might be considering a career there for all the wrong reasons, or perhaps because they are unable to look past the 'benefits' to see what a monster it has become.

I attempted to point out some of the failings of TC and how you might have to make serious personal sacrifices and although I rarely use a light touch, my opinions are valid.

Does anyone here really think that TC as an organization is doing a good job? If so, please enlighten the rest of us as to how that might be? How hard will you have to squint to work there?

Their website.
Cars - you're on your own.
Medical payments for what?
SMS.
Years of inadequate hiring.
The new license.
Pressure on parliamentary witnesses.
All of Widow's travails with them.
All of Cat's travails with them.
And so on.

And so to bed.

[Cat Driver]

Xsbank, my travails with TC pale in comparison to what they have done to some other operators in this region.

I of course am unable to divulge any real information here for the simple reason that I do not have sufficient documentation in my possession to be secure in posting on these matters, when I make an accusation against TCCA I am careful in what I write because I am only to aware of the power these people possess and will use if given the chance.

One of my best friends in aviation was ruined both financially and emotionally by the same people who ruined my company. This much I will state without fear of reprisal from TCCA, during the time I was having my problems with M&M in Vancouver my friend was also having the same problems, one day during a visit with him to try and salvage our business from the financial hemorrhaging we both were suffering he had reached the point that he was talking about hiring someone to cripple one of the TCCA employees that was at the root of our problems.

I spent the whole afternoon reasoning with my friend and he finally calmed down and realized that becoming a law breaker would only make him like them.

I see no difference in us discussing TCCA with regard to what they would be like to work for than the many discussions to be found on Avcanada concerning company xxx.

Therefore these issues should be beneficial to Buddy1 who started this thread.

[Cat Driver]

Croissant Wrench roaming through your posts I came across this one from March 29/2005.

Deep down inside every one of us would virtually stop at nothing to gain an advantage on another if they thought it was the going to get them one step closer to their goal. Some of us have good morals and some of us don't so the degree of angling may vary. And some of us may SEEM not to give a shit but you are only kidding your self.

Companies do it to each other, pilots do it to each other, companies do it to pilots and vice versa and TC has the power to do it to anyone-even their own and often do!

Seems you deep down feel just like Xsbank and me.

So why the attitude?