Stone Mountain Safaris

[210Pilot]

Their ad says they're looking for one pilot... then it says 300+ hours. I'm gonna assume that means how many hours you'd fly in a season???

[volez]

Yeah




I guess they are looking for a bush pilot who will be the only responsible for the flying part... Here comes the beginning of the season !

[kevinsky18]

I swapped a couple of e-mails. Their offer seemed very reasonable. I declined as I would rather fly floats with my current employer. Let us know how it works out.

[180]

Just checked out their website.

Some beautiful animals in the gallery: grizzly bears, mountain goats, big horn sheep, moose ...too bad they're all dead.

I understand hunting for food, but trophy hunting disgusts me. I couldn't work there.

This one lodge I flew to in SK, they bated the bears with bacon fat at the base of a few specific trees from the first snow melt. Then Cleutis the redneck would fly in from the states, set up his tree stand above the bated tree, and guess who bags a black bear with his bow and arrow his first night in camp? It was like shooting your dog while he ate his dinner. I remember loading the warm dripping black garbage bags with the bear head and skins into the 185 and almost puking...

The end.

[Cat Driver]

I understand hunting for food, but trophy hunting disgusts me. I couldn't work there.

Same for me.

If you want to kill a bear or a moose or a mountain sheep for sport why not go out and kill it with your bare hands or in desperation a rock.

[Westward_Bound]

I would love to see humans who hunt animals for sport do it in an even way. We gotta get rid of the Cletisus some way

I like the rock idea

By the way, where is the ad? I don't see it anywhere on their site

[cory_trevor]

I would love to see humans who hunt animals for sport do it in an even way. We gotta get rid of the Cletisus some way

I like the rock idea

By the way, where is the ad? I don't see it anywhere on their site

I don't think we shoud get rid of them, they pay for alot of our flying and hunting trips.

[Invertago]

Would I be at a disadvantageous in applying if I told them I was a vegan because I believe it is wrong to eat meat?

[Vickers vanguard]

Just checked out their website.


I understand hunting for food, but trophy hunting disgusts me. I couldn't work there.



The end.

same here....

[short bus]

After reading this i'm curious what the pluralization of Cletus would be, is it Cletuses or would it be Cleti? I'm sure that someone from the avcanada grammar and spelling police should have an answer.

[Edo]

I know this is probably pointless but what the hell.

Trophy Spot Hunting is managing and using a renewable recourse, the game. The meat is used sure the customer doesnt take much if any home but if its a meat bearing animal the meat is used. Fur bearing the hide is used. Same meat/hide wasting rules as a resident hunter has. The number of tags is managed in a controlled system by the Provincial/Territorial government.

Sure fees can be huge money, but if someone wants to come pay big money to hunt and kill a moose/bear/goat etc.. let them. It creates brings a lot of money into the region, especially small towns. Even big cites benefit, goto Edmonton International any sunday in November, its deer season. The baggage claim looks like an ad for the newest cammo patten.

Sure its not for everyone, I admit bear bating is a hard one to justify but its better than running them down with dogs. The most serious hunter there are carry a bow, they spend thousands even thought their success rate is way lower than those using a rifle.

Just a bit of the other side.

There is no reason to slay a guy's business. At least he posted a fair wage, more than you make at Jazz in 3.5 months.

[Invertago]

Is this normal pay for this kinda work?

Are there lots of lodges hiring pilots like this?

I don't remember seeing many jobs like this last year, mind you I wasn't looking very hard. Do these guys take 200hr wonders (I'm not a 200hr wonder and I have something else lined up anyhow, but just curious)... we're talking pretty simple a/c here, though not sure the weather they'll try to push. I'm thinking this guy must have a few hundred resumes already.

[C-GGGQ]

saw the same ad on another site and it specified a high experience bush pilot

[Flybabe]

Maybe a simple aircraft, but not simple flying in the least. Fun, though.

Good post, Edo.

[AJV]

type of flying? check this out...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN3zb4cxsGI awesome!!!!!

[Westward_Bound]

Just to reply to EDO's comment(nothing personal), while true, it says the only thing important in life is money. Sure, money to a small town improves those peoples lives...but what's the long term effect? "Progress" doesn't always turn out to be real progress in the end(our global environmental situation is proof). Another example is the low time pilot who makes career moves(pay to work type deals) to improve his immediate situation, but effects his long term situation, and actually degrades the industry as a whole.

That's the age old debate....is progress, and capitalism really good for the collective world? I believe no, but thats how I choose to live. Fact is I still need to make money to live in this society today. Just wish damage didn't have to be done in some form or another for a human to live.

Anyways, call me a hippy, call me whatever you want, but at least I know that I consciously make an effort to cause as little harm to others as I can, whether it be deciding what I buy and what my money supports, to driving less so others can breath.

I don't like to kill an animal, because 1 or more other animals might be depending on it survive as well. Just cus you only kill 1 animal, doesn't mean only 1 dies. What about the female and its babies?

Bottom line is, if a bear can't have a gun, neither should we!

[Invertago]

While the thought of shooting a bear with a high powered rifle might seem unfair to some, ever watch those nature shows? You never see the bear eating a cougar, the big male bears tend to eat things like little baby elk, or baby deer, or injured moose and.... baby grizzles. I've never found nature to be particularly "fair" or "sporting". Frankly I wouldn't hold it against which ever guy/gal gets his/her start in aviation this way. After all, in the wild, pilots eat their young

As a side note to the above comment "If a bear can't have a gun nor should we"
Guess we need to breed some deer with claws to make things fair in the wild.

[Edo]

Westward, dont worry i dont take it personally. I just like to point out the other side and maybe cut thought the anti hunting rhetoric some people have. In the end im sure we can agree to disagree.

But in response to a few points:

The long term effect is nature grows another moose/bear/deer. And a several more famlies can pay the rent AND eat the moose. Including mine.

I fail to see how paying for training can be compared to killing an animal to hang its head on your wall. Unless SCI opened up a new catrgory I dont know about.

What did people do before capitalism, we shot more game and didnt have superstore, granted cavemen probably didnt have trophy heads on the wall but i guarantee they compared who killed the biggest mammoth, for bragging rights

As for killing a female with babies, the females generally dont have the biggest antlers. Yes some sow bears are killed but an ethical hunter wont kill one with cubs, its illegal and besides if you kill all the cubs how do you expect them to grow up into big bears that you can take another hunter too in a few years.

[Flybabe]

Ahhh the age old debate.. to hunt or not to hunt.

[Edo]

the big male bears tend to eat things like little baby elk, or baby deer, or injured moose and.... baby grizzles. .

One reason female bears with cubs are so aggressive is that males will try and kill their own young. If the cubs die she will breed again this year, if they live she wont breed until next. So by killing your own young you can breed every year. Nature can be brutal sometimes.

[Westward_Bound]

EDO, I wasn't really disagreeing with you. I guess I was jsut going worst case scenario, which has and still happens today, in the sense that if we kill too many of anything and they disappear, or it throws the eco system outa wack, then other people suffer because of some other persons "sport".

Not saying every hunter just wants a head on the wall, or that one dead male is going to destroy the eco system. True, we need to hunt, the world is about give and take. I just want to make sure that the people who decide to take, are making an educated decision on just how much.

In the end, if you kill something, make it worth while. Do as the natives, and use every part. If someone killed me, I'd sure as hell hope they'd make the most of everything I had to offer, not just my giant di**....er...I mean paws.

[Westward_Bound]

But anyways, back to the ad where it says salary $30,000plus.

Does that mean for 3.5 months of work, you're going to get $30,000plus? or is that what the yearly amount is, and you would get 3.5 months worth of that?

[Edo]

Its not my job posting but from where they operate and what kind of flying they do I am quite sure its 30 grand for the 3.5 month season. I have seen other outfitters offer that, and not want to you be CP as well.

Of course for that wage you are going to be flying cubs into very short places, they are looking for someone who wont bend the airplane, that screws up the whole season.

The video posted is cool, but your gonna need more strip than that, no outfitter will let you fly around empty all day

[AJV]

The video posted is cool, but your gonna need more strip than that, no outfitter will let you fly around empty all day

true!! Looks like this guy makes a strip out of anything.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj1tmnwiVyI Damn!!!

[jamesinator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHTD8WQ- ... re=related

That guy is awesome