Interesting Thread By Bob Sacamano

[niss]

I didn't feel it appropriate to hijack his thread regarding the 4 Canadian Soldiers returning home so I started a new one here.

This thread is not about why we're there.

Troops do what they are told, and they agree to that when they sign up. Each person signs on for a different reason. Some for guidance, some for money, some for beliefs.

This thread is to remind us all, that these are fellow Canadians who died while serving our flag.

It's the politicians who sent them there. Who elected these politicians? Start by voicing your concerns there. Don't get me wrong, the internet is a good place to educate others on your opinions and thoughts, but no to hijacking this thread.

I find it interesting that he does not extend the same courtesy, remorse and respect to US and Israeli soldiers.

[bmc]

I didn't feel it appropriate to hijack his thread regarding the 4 Canadian Soldiers returning home so I started a new one here.

This thread is not about why we're there.

Troops do what they are told, and they agree to that when they sign up. Each person signs on for a different reason. Some for guidance, some for money, some for beliefs.

This thread is to remind us all, that these are fellow Canadians who died while serving our flag.

It's the politicians who sent them there. Who elected these politicians? Start by voicing your concerns there. Don't get me wrong, the internet is a good place to educate others on your opinions and thoughts, but no to hijacking this thread.

I find it interesting that he does not extend the same courtesy, remorse and respect to US and Israeli soldiers.

Or Australians, Brits, Germans, and Polish troops.

Come on Bob. Let's see some consistency.

[Doc]

The people who seem to think, that dieing on the roadside in some piss hole country most Canadians couldn't even find on a map, is "buying" freedom, are on drugs. It's time to do what Hitler's dad should have done, and pull out!

[Hedley]

It is indeed a pity that we are fighting this war
in strict obeyance of rules that the Marquess of
Queensberry would approve of.

Unfortunately the other side is not.

[Doc]

It is indeed a pity that we are fighting this war
in strict obeyance of rules that the Marquess of
Queensberry would approve of.

Unfortunately the other side is not.

1. To be a fair stand-up boxing match in a 24-foot (7.3 m) ring, or as near that size as practicable.
2. No wrestling or hugging allowed.
3. The rounds to be of three minutes' duration, and one minute's time between rounds.
4. If either man falls through weakness or otherwise, he must get up unassisted, 10 seconds to be allowed him to do so, the other man meanwhile to return to his corner, and when the fallen man is on his legs the round is to be resumed and continued until the three minutes have expired. If one man fails to come to the scratch in the 10 seconds allowed, it shall be in the power of the referee to give his award in favour of the other man.
5. A man hanging on the ropes in a helpless state, with his toes off the ground, shall be considered down.
6. No seconds or any other person to be allowed in the ring during the rounds.
7. Should the contest be stopped by any unavoidable interference, the referee to name the time and place as soon as possible for finishing the contest; so that the match must be won and lost, unless the backers of both men agree to draw the stakes.
8. The gloves to be fair-sized boxing gloves of the best quality and new.
9. Should a glove burst, or come off, it must be replaced to the referee's satisfaction.
10. A man on one knee is considered down and if struck is entitled to the stakes.
11. No shoes or boots with springs allowed.
12. The contest in all other respects to be governed by revised rules of the London Prize Ring.

[trey kule]

The first thought that comes to mind when I read this thread, is why Niss would criticize BS for not including US and Israeli soldiers and himself exclude the soldiers of the other UN countries? Interesting perspective Niss.

Hedley, I could not agree with you more. Unfortunately, the "other side" does not have to play by the rules because our media is pretty much on their side. It is only our side the media holds responsible. It is the errors we make that get into the news.

[Hedley]

I was told - but am having trouble believing - that
any vehicles brought to Afganistan must comply
with European emission laws.

I am sure that the other side operates with similar
restraints and consideration

[niss]

The first thought that comes to mind when I read this thread, is why Niss would criticize BS for not including US and Israeli soldiers and himself exclude the soldiers of the other UN countries? Interesting perspective Niss.

Hedley, I could not agree with you more. Unfortunately, the "other side" does not have to play by the rules because our media is pretty much on their side. It is only our side the media holds responsible. It is the errors we make that get into the news.

It is true that I did not talk to the other nations who are participating but that is because I have yet to hear anyone really speak about them for better or for worse.

There are only 3 countries who's militarys are regular topics here: Canada, US, Israel.

I wanted to know why he respects Canadian soldiers by saying that they are just there to do a job, it is the politicians who dictate it, but he expresses such distaste for US and especially Israeli soldiers who are in the same boat (Israelis worse as they are conscripted rather than volunteer).

[bob sacamano]

I find it interesting that he does not extend the same courtesy, remorse and respect to US and Israeli soldiers.

Dude don't even try for 1 second to compare the Canadian army to the american and israelis. Don't even try to compare our societies. We do not oppress other people, and we certainly do not invade other countries and steal their land and resources.

And just for the record, I'd friggin' be all over that shit:



Dayum! Who's yo daddy! She can talk dirty to me in hebrew all night long.

[niss]

So let me get this straight...

Canadian soldiers are only pawns who do as their told....very unfortunate.

Israeli soldiers are just out to oppress other people?

[bob sacamano]

So let me get this straight...

Canadian soldiers are only pawns who do as their told....very unfortunate.

Israeli soldiers are just out to oppress other people?

LOL so that's what you understood?

Weak.

p.s. it's They're, not their.

Do this quiz for practice.

http://www.better-english.com/easier/theyre.htm

Ya'll come back now.

[niss]

Yep, you are right, I misspelled they're.

I would however disagree with you on one thing. I would argue that our society is very much based on stealing other peoples land and resources.

[bob sacamano]

Yep, you are right, I misspelled they're.

I would however disagree with you on one thing. I would argue that our society is very much based on stealing other peoples land and resources.

265,000 new immigrants to Canada in 2008. Yep, we steal lots. lol

You really want to compare Europeans crossing the pond to the zionist movement taking Palestine?

Perhaps by 'our' you were talking about your israeli society, so I won't go further, I hate to assume.

These 'discussions' with you are quite boring. I have said it before, I refuse to debate with religious extremists, company policy.

Peace.

[niss]

Hard for me to be a religious extremist considering I pretty much consider myself athiest. But assume what you want, it hasn't stopped you from manipulating my words in the past.

You calling me an extremist makes me laugh, much in the same way Iran claiming Canada violates human rights makes me laugh.

[ottawa,kan]

NISS.....Bob's a hypocrite. You see it , I see it, most everyone here can see it. He won't debate you short of calling you names, because he knows he is wrong. If Canadian soldiers go where they are told by venal politicians then so obviously do all soldiers. Polish, Irish, Israeli, U.S. It's obvious to anyone with even a little bitty brain. And if Israel was founded by Zionists, and we ignore any other possible parameters to that founding, including lands purchased in the mid 1800's, then obviously the US and Canada were also founded by religious extremists bent on uncaring or even planned genocide. There is no difference that I can see, except that the Palestinians seem a whole lot more determined to defend what they call their own by military force. The "genocide" that founded Canada and the US, Mexico and etc was a little more uneven, due to the stone age technology of the "victims"

[iflyforpie]

NISS.....Bob's a hypocrite. You see it , I see it, most everyone here can see it. He won't debate you short of calling you names, because he knows he is wrong. If Canadian soldiers go where they are told by venal politicians then so obviously do all soldiers. Polish, Irish, Israeli, U.S. It's obvious to anyone with even a little bitty brain. And if Israel was founded by Zionists, and we ignore any other possible parameters to that founding, including lands purchased in the mid 1800's, then obviously the US and Canada were also founded by religious extremists bent on uncaring or even planned genocide. There is no difference that I can see, except that the Palestinians seem a whole lot more determined to defend what they call their own by military force. The "genocide" that founded Canada and the US, Mexico and etc was a little more uneven, due to the stone age technology of the "victims"

+1

The Israelis own about 22,000 sq km of land they didn't have before 1948. We own 10,000,000 sq km of land we didn't own before the 1600s. What is the difference other than we stole more land and effectively ended any form of violent resistance?

We seem to ignore that part of our own history. Just now after hundreds of years we are starting to settle land claims while Israel never annexed Palestine--even though it won all of the territory and then some during the various wars. The only territories that were annexed were: the lands occupied after the 1948 war, the Golan Heights, and East Jerusalem; which I believe is fair compensation.

I don't condone all of Israel's actions. Nor do I condone all of the Palestinian's. IMHO there will never be a solution to the Middle East.

[Invertago]

+1

The Israelis own about 22,000 sq km of land they didn't have before 1948. We own 10,000,000 sq km of land we didn't own before the 1600s. What is the difference other than we stole more land and effectively ended any form of violent resistance?

We seem to ignore that part of our own history. Just now after hundreds of years we are starting to settle land claims while Israel never annexed Palestine--even though it won all of the territory and then some during the various wars. The only territories that were annexed were: the lands occupied after the 1948 war, the Golan Heights, and East Jerusalem; which I believe is fair compensation.

I don't condone all of Israel's actions. Nor do I condone all of the Palestinian's. IMHO there will never be a solution to the Middle East.

Ahhh... but who can own a tree young grass hopper..., sh1t ya'll, lets just the Palestinians Quebec and call it a day.

[HS-748 2A]

Dayum! Who's yo daddy! She can talk dirty to me in hebrew all night long.

Bob, leer a little more longingly at that pic of yours. I think that's Michael Jackson.

I guess whatever floats your boat Dawg.

48

[. ._]

If you do a Google image search on "female israeli soldier", you find some nice pics.

I highly recommend it.

[Changes in Latitudes]

If you do a Google image search on "female israeli soldier", you find some nice pics.

I highly recommend it.

I'm just another goyim, but...
I got this far and that was it.



For my money, it doesn't get any better than when Streisand sings "You don't bring me flowers" with Neil Diamond. I celebrate her entire catalogue.

[lilfssister]

hmmmmm...for CDs to do housework by...I alternate between Barbra, KT Tunstall, and NGDB...I am a bit inconsistent in the music department (or what some would call eclectic?)

edited to add: I have a Frank Sinatra Duets CD too that is a great one for singalong

[Changes in Latitudes]

One has to have a nose for these things, I suppose.

[HS-748 2A]

[Dash-Ate]

It is indeed a pity that we are fighting this war
in strict obeyance of rules that the Marquess of
Queensberry would approve of.

Unfortunately the other side is not.

Really? Why is this hard for you to understand. Military occupies their country, they shoot at this military. End of story. They do not care if there are russians, US, or UK or Canadian military in the country, they will engage these military targets.

If anything the west is the one targeting civillians and breaking down doors and bagging, tagging, and, bombing, sniping, torturing civillians.

I say bring the toops home to defend OUR borders.

[Hedley]

Nice to hear the Al Jazeera viewpoint.