Bush pay???

[DEL]

Pay for pilots and dock hands in the bush. Keep it simple, no company names but area located in. ie: western Canada, northwestern Ontario, Quebec or east coast. Try to use the format below so it is simple but if I have overlooked something, please add. Lets keep it to the past three years so we can see the increases if there were any. If you moved from one position to another post it in the comment section. Once there has been enough postings, we can put it in the salary section so all know what is going on with bush pay.

Pilots:
aircraft used:
pay per month,
hours worked flying/other
any overtime pay
housing included or not
time off
perks if any:
area of flying

Dockhands:
pay per month:
hours worked
housing included or not
any flying & in what aircraft
time off
any perks:
area located

Any comments:

[ever]

Pilots:
aircraft used:Beaver
pay per month: 5k
hours worked flying/other: 200hrs over 5 months
any overtime pay: No
housing included or not: room and board covered
time off: 2..4 day stints
perks if any: fishing
area of flying: western canada

[SkyWolfe]

Pilots:
aircraft used: 205
pay per month,: 1000 base
hours worked flying/other: 7 on, 7 on
any overtime pay: no
housing included or not: sorta.
time off: Only when things broke.
perks if any: Scenery
area of flying: West

Dockhands: *Dispatch*
pay per month: 2000
hours worked: 7 on, 7 on
housing included or not: sorta
any flying & in what aircraft: no
time off: Only when requested
any perks: Free flights
area located: West


Pilots:
aircraft used: 206T
pay per month,: 5000
hours worked flying/other: 7 on, 7 on
any overtime pay: no
housing included or not: sorta.
time off:
perks if any: Scenery
area of flying: West

[orbit]

so I gather for Beaver pilot less than $4,500.00 is too low???

[nepolean77]

Been a Bush pilot is more about the thrill of flying on the deck I fly in Australia out back it is the Ranchers that pay the pilots I am looking to fly in Canada I have a few options open and that is my dream,I do it because I love to fly.

[sounder]

Pilots:
aircraft used: Beaver and 185
pay per day: $210
hours worked flying/other: 12-14 hour duty days are the norm
any overtime pay: no
housing included or not: no
time off: when company can fit it in
perks if any: incredible flying on the coast
area of flying: West

[gapper]

Aircraft DHC-3T Wheels
Day rate $125
Rate .60/mile or $80/hr
Perks Supplied bachelor suite & Good boss(past history)
Schedule 10on/5off
Location NW Canada mountains

[Northern Guy]

ma&pa
c206
1500 month
7 days a week
no game 6 or 7
bread and h2o
lol

[Nahanni]

FIRST JOB OUT OF A 50 HR BUSH COURSE

northern mb
BeaverF
2000/month
no days off
room & board
standard outhouse
worst mistake: forgetting to bring swank

[Flieger1]

PC2
Are you seriously flying a beaver for 2000 bucks a month?!?
No wonder we're all so poor.

[Flieger1]

I need to add something to my last post. I can understand why a low time pilot would take such a job having found it (Being a low timer myself). What truly upsets me is that there is an operator out there willing to offer this. You're not getting milage on top of this I assume?
Just to clear things up for me, and the rest of us, do you only have the 50 hours on floats? Have you been flying wheels for 20 years and just decided on a career change?
Does anyone else find this appalling?

[supercub7]

No I don't find it appalling, just plain retarded. Do the math $2000 a month diveded by 30 days=$66.67 a day. If you took a mininum wage job at Mcdonalds and worked an 8 hour shift you would make $76.00 a day. I think pc2 should ask for a raise, or find another job. Maybe Mcdonalds is hiring.

[kevinsky18]

Let me get this straight. The this fellow comes out of a 50hr bush course and lands a job in this ecconomy for $2000 a month and everyone is on his case?

What difference does it make what he's flying? Cub, 185, 206, Beaver? A beaver isn't that much harder to fly. He's being paid a fair wage for a first time job especially with no dock time.

Next year when he has more experience he can ask for a raise. I would be a bit wound up if he said he had 10,000 hrs and took a job for $2000 but that's not the case.

Good on you PC2. Glad to hear the 50 hour bush course paid off.

[Cat Driver]

I wonder if the owner of that airplane has a lower charter rate than his / her competition that reflects the low pilot pay?

[iflyforpie]

Let me get this straight. The this fellow comes out of a 50hr bush course and lands a job in this ecconomy for $2000 a month and everyone is on his case?

Damn straight!

$2000/mo is an insult. No days off is illegal!

It does make a difference what he flies. The Beaver probably brings in more money in a day of flying than he does in an month. The pilot also has increased responsibility by carrying more passengers and cargo. That should mean more pay--no?

It is great that someone can go straight onto flying a great plane right out of school--but at what cost?

[Flieger1]

I'm not pissed at this guy, I'm mad at the operator for offering such low pay for the equipment operated. My first job was in a 180 with three days off a month out of camp for 3 grand a month.
And cat, you can bet the guy isn't dropping his charter rates because of the high insurance rates he has to make up for having a low time guy fly his machine.
I actually feel sorry that I'm dumping on this guy for getting this job, but it still upsets me.
(Note to self... if I ever take a job where I'm underpaid, bonded, working in terrible conditions, etc... Don't post it on avcanada!)

[Cat Driver]

Employers like this one and those who see nothing wrong with slavery is the reason you poor bastards " MUST " form an association to allow you to get paid a fair wage with safe working conditions.

I still do some part time flying and my minimum daily rate is $500.00 per day even if I only fly one short trip.

[floatman]

Sounds familliar..

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[Slats]

Does this particular Beaver job happen to be in Wabowden? If so, I know why the pay sucks, and why a guy with only 50 hours could get the job.

[supercub7]

Cat Driver what aircraft do you fly?

[Cat Driver]

Cat Driver what aircraft do you fly?

I assume you want to know what airplanes I charge that rare on?

Any light single engine or multi engine airplanes.

If the airplane is in the more complex category my rate goes up considerably.

[peakbagger]

Dockhand
6 days / week
Housing included
$2250 / month
180 check out by the end of the season
Northern Ontario

Testing my level of patience through dirty jobs that have NOTHING to do with aviation. All part of it I guess:)

[Vx.]

DHC-2
$6000 / month
50-75 hours flight time / month
nice housing included
not much time off but the base is in a great location
vary nice owner and CP ( i hug them sometimes)
BC coast

20% of the flying is in a 180, 5 month season, no leaky floats, i answer the company phone after hours.
i will return next season!

Vx.

[Dash-7wannaby]

Attention pilots out there on salary pay.We must remember salary is just a form of payment, Companies by law have to pay overtime,stat holidays and all that good stuff. It just amazes me that these companies get away with this fraudulant act. Sit down and fiqure out the time put in and what your payed, and you will see just how much you are being ripped off.If the boss says he can't afford it .and pulls into the hanger with his 40ft motorhome hes full of @v$%^.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Sit down and fiqure out the time put in and what your payed, and you will see just how much you are being ripped off.

So if you think you are being ripped off what can you do about it?

If the boss says he can't afford it .and pulls into the hanger with his 40ft motorhome hes full of @v$%^.

What does your employers forty foot motor home have to do with your pay?