Poochie causes crash

[bombardierfixer]

Hey what engine does the Doiner 328 have? Isn't it a PW 120 somthing? On the news the showed one in PNG swerving to miss a dog. It ran into the weeds, shed some blades but then the hub takes off. I was suprised by that, knowing how the hubs are attached in a Dash install I would have expected a little more damage to the necelle. It was on Global TV can't find a link.

[nookie201]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8100209.stm

[airwrench]

Hey Bombardierfixer, hows things? accident was in Papua, not Papua new guniea, same island but Papua part of Indonesia. Seems to hace plenty of accidents over here, once a month at least. where you at now, Holland again?

Cheers

[carnie]

Check the video link. A doggie ran in front of the plane and was blamed for the subsequent mishap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tmnKhqAIis

[fortis risk]

I think its a bit of a stretch to say its the dogs fault, unless of course there was a dog sitting in the left seat as well.

[carnie]

I'm not saying the dog is to blame. The media is pinning it on poor Mr Pooch.

[ez4u2say]

I am somewhat surprised that they did not secure the wind milling prop before the passengers exited the aircraft....

[MUSKEG]

Ya and if the airplane had caught fire while they were waiting for the prop to stop and get it secured before allowing paxs to leave I'm sure you would have a critisizm for that to. Some people should just stay in bed so as not to get hurt.

[ez4u2say]

Hey there MUSKEG..it was just a casual observation..I don't really think that this was such a big deal unless they put the video in slow motion...so let's not get off on the wrong foot..

[Cat Driver]

It is doubtful if the pilots even saw the dog if they were trained to look at the far end of the runway before touch down.

[shitdisturber]

Looks to me like the crew turned a non event into an accident. The dog was well clear of the runway before they locked up the brakes; and even if it wasn't, unless you're in a light single and you're avoiding a moose, hit the damned thing! It'll probably do considerably less damage than a runway departure.

[bombardierfixer]

Curious? Why did this subject get moved? I posted it in the maint forum, and now its here?

[C-GPFG]

Looked like hydroplaning and/or a blown tire.

I don't think the dog had anything to do with it.

[atpl53]

Personally I enjoyed watching the passengers exit carrying their precious luggage.

[Dash-Ate]

Pilot Dog lost situation awareness. Was licking his nutz while on final.

[Just another canuck]

Dog had nothing to do with it... although, they are usually a problem there. People are just as much a problem there, like nearly every runway in Papua. The benefit of Tanah Merah is you can do a fly-by or two to let them know you are there because it's in the flat lands.

It's actually worse on takeoff at this particular strip because when lining up, there is hump about 100 meters down and you can not see past it... just go full throttle and hope nothing is in the way.

On another note, it's funny that this crash made avcanada when there is much worse crashes that happen frequently on the that island... nobody died in this one, unlike the many others that occur on a regular basis.

[Changes in Latitudes]

On another note, it's funny that this crash made avcanada when there is much worse crashes that happen frequently on the that island... nobody died in this one, unlike the many others that occur on a regular basis.

From the guy who is hitting the submit button every couple of minutes, perhaps if he wants more said about these crashes, he should do the saying.

I thought it was an interesting scenario to discuss...but that's just me.

[Just another canuck]

From the guy who is hitting the submit button every couple of minutes

And probably 90% of those posts are in the Misc. Forum... what's your point anyway?

More said, okay:

Here's a recent crash which occurred near Ilaga... one of the most dangerous strips in Papua, excluding Porter strips. 7600 ' altitude and 500 or 550 metres if my memory is correct. Not much of an upslope, which actually makes it more dangerous. This particular crash had nothing to do with the strip, but I will mention there is a twin otter off the end... it's on a plateau, sort of. Everyone died in that as well.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009 ... -site.html

10 or 11 in a Porter... this is a very common thing to just throw pax. in until they don't fit anymore. I've watched up to 20 or more people pile out of a twin otter. Pilots don't get paid much so they take cash on site and stick more people in.

My point was there are many crashes that happen there... and C in L, okay, from now on, I will post them as they come along. I do still keep an eye on the area as I used to be there. You think Canada's safety record and system is poor... it's light years ahead of Irian Jaya and PNG.

[bombardierfixer]

If you read the original post it was supposed to be in the maintenace forum, not the pilot forum because the question was actually about the engine in the 328 and more importantly the mounting of the hub to the gear box. The shearing of the hub was the main question. So back to the Original question is that a PW 120 series engine or somthing else?

[Widow]

Curious? Why did this subject get moved? I posted it in the maint forum, and now its here?

If I recall correctly, there were four different threads started on the same subject ... one in maint, one in bush flying and two in general. Appears threads were merged into the first one posted (yours), but title changed to the one of "general interest".

If you don't get the answers you are looking for due to the change, you can always repost in Maint with reference to this thread.

[bombardierfixer]

Thanks widow, yeah I'll repost it.

[lawndart]

PW-119B

[mark_]

Pilot Dog lost situation awareness. Was licking his nutz while on final.

Thanks for the tea that just came out of my nose Dash.

Mark