thats is where you are asuming again! the rights we speak of are not given by any governemt.Rockie wrote:No you cannot. Citizenship automatically grants both, but if you renounce it you lose both rights because...tada...you aren't a Canadian citizen anymore (just ask Conrad Black). They would then have to apply and be granted either landed immigrant status or be given a work visa. The Freemen of course would not apply for either because they do not recognize Canada and have a serious bug up their ass over any document issued by Canada. Much easier to just keep their citizenship and pretend that they don't have it anymore.Cat Driver wrote:If a Canadian renounces their citizenship what happens?
Can they still live and work in Canada?
they are un-aleinable. a baby born in the woods, with no birth certicicate in BC. for example. does that baby have rights? where do animals get thir rights? from a man made constitution?
go head, tell a first nations native that, and you will get a new education real fast. if not then it would be lawful to enslave that child and force it to grow up the way you want. i fact, you could even kill it,, torture it, and all kinds of sick stuff because it has no rights? is that your argument as to where our rights come from?
the rights we have are bestowed before birth. in the womb, at the moment of conception. look up in the laws of nature and it clearly states at what point a fetus is considered alive. and that being has rights.
what you are talking about are privaleges. not rights.
distinctions! make the distinctions!




