PERIMETER AUDIT

Disco Stu · Post by **Disco Stu** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:09 pm

HARLEYD67 wrote:What I hear......Perimeter has a National Audit on the go. Is this correct? I imagine though, they should pull this one off as they have experience.....O.C. pulled twice and back up again.

Okay, so I have to eat crow.

You are correct.

Funny, I ask and ask the question after Skywards was pulled and couldn't get an answer. Post it on an internet forum, offering beer, and suddenly everyone in the company has the answer for me.

Kinda chewy...........

Airtids · Post by **Airtids** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:19 pm

Way to step up Stu. Admirable.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:49 pm

Stu, douse it in catsup; makes almost anything palatable, even mess hall food.

I've been watching this situation with interest as it will be as good an indication as any if TC is on another one of their witch hunts. If they are, no matter how squeaky clean Perimeter is; they'll be shutdown, period.

centerstored · Post by **centerstored** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:34 pm

I don't think so disturber. TC has to be able to prove that the safety of a company's operation is jeopardized. This witch hunt thing is B$. Yeah, they have been known to crack down every now and then...like when pathetic companies try to sue them for not shutting them down earlier, but they still must show just cause. They can't just march across the country flashing badges and yanking OC's at will. From what I hear, I don't think the big P has anything to worry about, or anything to hide.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:48 pm

Center the problem is, if they're trying to prove a point; even if the only point is that they're in control, they will find what they're looking for. Keep in mind that the CARs are written by lawyers and TC can, and does, interpret them any way they want. Like I said before, if they want to shut Perimeter down; they will. It may only be for a few days, but it will happen.

Trust me, they don't have to prove the safety of an operation is jeopardized to shut a company down. I've seen an operation that had no safety issues, shut down for six weeks over interpretations of annual training requirements.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:12 pm

Well if anyone wants proof that Transport Canada can and will interpert the CAR's to suit their agenda if they want to show you they can all you need do is read my file TC #5015-12391.

If they want to ground your airplane/'s they will find some obscure item and ground it, and there is zero you can do about it.

Their system is corrupt at the top.

The findings of their own internal investigation of my file shows beyond doubt that they can tell you that a CAR's section means that you meet the requirements in writing, then change their interpertation when they want to deny you what you are entitled to and there is zero you can do about it.

What is needed is to weed out the moral degenerates that are in charge of TC Civil Aviation...

..and it can be done..

Cat

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:53 pm

Cat I take exception to your use of the phrase "moral degenerates" to describe those in charge at TC. Having been a moral degenerate for some time I am deeply offended at having them lumped in my category. Kindly find some other, more apt, description and stop trying to bring them up to my level.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:35 am

S.D. :

I said "moral' not "sexual" there is a big difference.

I have in my files a signed letter from the Director General Civil Aviation stating clearly that in his opinion it is O.K.for any of his top level managers to use dishonesty as a tool to take down one of us...here is his defense of two TC moral degenerates in this region.........

"" Concerning your continued dissatisfaction towards Messrs. xxxx and xxxx, I find that their handling of this matter has been quite satisfactory and they have my full support. ""

Remember these two cretins were found to have lied, falsified , changed and witheld documents, one of their Inspectors was found to have been guilty of harrassment of me after I filed a complaint.

This letter that I have right from that degenerates desk in Tower C is the most treasured piece of evidence that I managed to collect during the year and a half it took TC to bankrupt me.

Hopefully this letter will eventually be read on the floor of the house of commons when my MP really gets going on this...

But first I'm still letting them dig their hole deeper as I communicate with the opposition in Ottawa.

By the way S.D. you must know that TC reads all this stuff here and the pricks haven't got the balls to take me in front of a Federal Judge and jury to answer for my allegations....

Any idea why they wont?

Cat

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 8:45 pm

Cat Driver wrote:S.D. :
By the way S.D. you must know that TC reads all this stuff here and the pricks haven't got the balls to take me in front of a Federal Judge and jury to answer for my allegations....

Any idea why they wont?

Cat

Short answer Cat, TC is a bureacracy and as any bureaucrat knows; the easiest way to deal with a problem is to ignore it until it goes away. They know damn well if they're patient you'll either give up or die of old age and the problem will be solved.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:07 pm

" Short answer Cat, TC is a bureacracy and as any bureaucrat knows; the easiest way to deal with a problem is to ignore it until it goes away. They know damn well if they're patient you'll either give up or die of old age and the problem will be solved. "

S.D. :

Exactly, that is exactly how they operate.

But you should be delighted to know that I am making amazing headway with the political end of the equasion, the only hope there is for bringing some accountability to some of the abusers of office within the system.

I am in the process of sending another letter to the Transport Minister just before I leave for Europe.

Pandoras box has been opened by the Ministers office by replying to my last letter with some interesting claims made by TC in Vancouver that is demonstrably false, in otherwords TC has once again made false claims in the effort to protect their own.

This time I can produce absolute proof that they are lying, and now the ball will be in the Minister of Transports court...

...should be interesting to see where it goes because I am keeping both opposition critics in the loop and my MP is working for me on this.

If they think I am giving up they are really out to lunch, and if they are waiting for me to die they may have a long wait.

Cat

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:23 pm

Cat Driver wrote:

If they think I am giving up they are really out to lunch, and if they are waiting for me to die they may have a long wait.

Cat

I don't know Cat; let's face it, you trained with the Wright brothers, you're old.

HARLEYD67 · Post by **HARLEYD67** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:26 pm

Disco Stu,

The truth hurts sometimes. Anyways, its nice to see that you found out the truth. It's also a great observation for others on this forum to realize that you dont think before you speak....i.e. because were new to this forum we dont have a right to voice our opinions.

I wish you and Perimeter the best...I hope everyone fulfills their dreams

centerstored · Post by **centerstored** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:47 pm

I agree with STU on this one. Check out the new spammers that have joined up in the last month to either defend or trash Skyterd. Get some balls and post under your real user name.

Localizer · Post by **Localizer** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:48 pm

Wow .. Perimeter pilots really are a bunch of pomp's asses ..

(like this entire industry didn't already know that .. HELLO! you fly a f*cking sewer tube! Get rid of the ego!)

centerstored · Post by **centerstored** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 7:54 pm

Since when is a 57 a sewer tube...LOC? Never have worked at the Big Green Machine and never will! Bet your still sending resumes there though!!

Disco Stu · Post by **Disco Stu** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:51 pm

Localizer wrote:Wow .. Perimeter pilots really are a bunch of pomp's asses ..

(like this entire industry didn't already know that .. HELLO! you fly a f*cking sewer tube! Get rid of the ego!)

Oh stop, you are going to make me cry.

Not sure what a pomp's ass is..................but if it is someone who can make over $90K a year flying a 12500 turbo-prop, getting treated very well and generally enjoying life, even if I am flying a "sewer tube", well, then I guess I am a pomp's ass.

Oh well.

joe to go · Post by **joe to go** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:50 pm

Congrats Disco Stu, i see you have gotten a 12,000 dollar raise since you posted your salary in the salary section.

Schlem · Post by **Schlem** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:12 pm

joe to go wrote:Congrats Disco Stu, i see you have gotten a 12,000 dollar raise since you posted your salary in the salary section.

Stu said "if someone"...

There are medevac drivers at Perimeter that are pulling in that kind of money.

joe to go · Post by **joe to go** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:53 pm

i read it again and stand corrected

mister mofo · Post by **mister mofo** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:20 am

If Perimeter guys are a little "pomp ass"-ed, it's becuase they're working for one of, if not themost successful airline in Canada. They've made a ton of money year after year, for the last 30 odd years. What other company in Canada can say that? In an cyclical industry, the owners have found a profitable niche which they cater too. Recently, they've used the profit to improve pilot salaries, safety and profesionalism. That makes the entire industry better. Why not be proud?

mister mofo · Post by **mister mofo** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:27 am

Localizer wrote:Wow .. Perimeter pilots really are a bunch of pomp's asses ..

(like this entire industry didn't already know that .. HELLO! you fly a f*cking sewer tube! Get rid of the ego!)

Man! I can't get over this guy! You're a real class act buddy. The "sewer tube" is a fantastic airplane. It's a really good job, man.

Jealous?

The Hammer · Post by **The Hammer** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:36 am

Hey Localizer

If Big Red was run nearly as efficiently a company like Perimeter, they wouldn't be contracting out their cargo again!! Their pilot's wouldn't be offering to fly for shit wages on the RJ and the EMB (AC pilots are the only mainline pilot to operate the CRJ in the world!!!)
It's pretty sad that a mainline pilot has to offer to fly an EMB 190 for less money than a hard working sewer tube pilot makes!! (A pretty big paycut just to wear at hat)

AC has the ability to make a everyone very wealthy but it is run so inefficiently and the dollars disappear in the bureaucracy!!!

PS
The few obvious Perimeter pilots on this board are knobs!! but hey, most of their coworkers feel the same way about them!!!

-It's not disco Stu's fault that he never worked on the ramp and no one has ever taken the silver spoon out of his mouth. DD is his mentor

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giligan · Post by **giligan** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:01 am

Stu worked on the ramp in Pickle. DD did for Ministic.
giligan

DragEraser · Post by **DragEraser** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:36 pm

That explains why stu's so bitter. He's still sick from Pierre's cooking.

Disco Stu · Post by **Disco Stu** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:35 am

The Hammer wrote:-It's not disco Stu's fault that he never worked on the ramp and no one has ever taken the silver spoon out of his mouth. DD is his mentor

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Maybe you should check your facts first before you spout off. As giligan stated I worked the ramp for Wasaya, but left for a better gig.

Jealousy gets the better of many people.

Don't be mad because we at Perimeter have it so good. You too could be treated this well. But with nothing but right seat PC12 time, you'd better line up behind our rampies.

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