Love Letter to WestJet Employees

[Jastapilot]

And for the Vulgar question about money, only twenty words? I recall tehmastermonk saying he was a carpenter or something; I am nothing like that. In less than twenty, quoth TS Eliot: minor poets borrow, major poets steal.

I can respect a carpenter. I have zero respect for a leech. You, my friend are the vulgar one. Get a job.

[iflyforpie]

In less than twenty, quoth TS Eliot: minor poets borrow, major poets steal.

Borrowing means you return it. What are you returning?

[Jastapilot]

And for the Vulgar question about money, only twenty words? I recall tehmastermonk saying he was a carpenter or something; I am nothing like that. In less than twenty, quoth TS Eliot: minor poets borrow, major poets steal.

I can respect a carpenter. I have zero respect for a leech. You, my friend are the vulgar one. Get a job.

oh, and if quoting TS Elliot is supposed to impress me, it doesn't. Not many here have the time to figure out your bullshit so speak plainly, if you can.

[scirefacias]

"Not many here have the time to figure out your bullshit so speak plainly, if you can."

Well, if you have not figured it out, how can you label it bullshit?
Do you label all that which you are unable/unwilling to figure out "bullshit"?

The juveneille "follow my orders, if you can" trope is very cute. And if I do not follow my orders, you will accuse me of being unable to follow your orders; thus, I might be brought about to compliance, for who would want to be the sort of military man who cannot follow orders?

Oh, wait, I am not a military man =]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l87Vvb7JcDU

Lovely Rita meter maid
Nothing can come between us
When it gets dark I tow your heart away
Standing by a parking meter
When I caught a glimpse of Rita
Filling in a ticket in her little white book
In a cap she looked much older
And the bag across her shoulder
Made her look a little like a military man

I do not think quoting Eliot is supposed to impress you; are your gradeschool-level insults supposed to impress me? =]

[Jastapilot]

still can't do it in under 20 words?

[scirefacias]

"Then 'tis like the breath of an unfee'd lawyer; you
gave me nothing for't. Can you make no use of
nothing, nuncle?"

[Jastapilot]

thanks for proving you're a putz.
BTW, that was 22 words, and if you're trying to tell me you're a lawyer, well then, wow dude, wow.

[scirefacias]

Gosh, a leech, a putz, my goodness!

All of those words.

Why do you think people should answer such ridiculously vulgar questions?

[Jastapilot]

and thus the bullshiteth continueth to floweth.

You have no credibility. You can't answer a question with a simple and direct answer. Seeya.

[Siddley Hawker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFvtoJrK1Zg

[scirefacias]

Ah, credit.

Cash only here, thanx.

In your view people gain credibility by answering irrelevant questions?

Alice: "A, B, C, therefore D."

Bob: "What do you do for a living."

Alice: "Beg pardon?"

Bob: "That argument is all well and fine, but if you won't tell me what you do for a living, you have no credibility!"

Alice: "So you judge speakers, not their arguments? Ah, well then. You work for wages and therefore your opinion is of little value, as your mind has been degraded thoroughly, for all paid work absorbs and degrades the mind, you know. Read it in my almanac."

Ah, Frank Zappa.
I prefer less east-coast corporatist cynicism, personally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGjaaQAvSTA

[Jastapilot]

edit: @#$! it. Why do I bother?

[scirefacias]

I have no idea why you bother.
If you don't know, you might want to figure that out.

[mdscientist61]

I have no idea why you bother.
If you don't know, you might want to figure that out.

** Footnote: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

[scirefacias]

Before we address the very important question of whether or not comptuers are able to think, might we not first ponder whether or not submarines are able to swim?

[Jastapilot]

I have no idea why you bother.
If you don't know, you might want to figure that out.

I have a more important question... why do YOU bother?

[scirefacias]

Initially the thread was about Rob's love letter, etc. I initially commented on that, and thereupon I did try to clarify some matters concerning God, man, Law, freedom, etc.

And apparently all of that is nothing if I won't explain how it is I accrue enough monopoly money to feed myself.

C'est la!

[AuxBatOn]

Initially the thread was about Rob's love letter, etc. I initially commented on that, and thereupon I did try to clarify some matters concerning God, man, Law, freedom, etc.

And apparently all of that is nothing if I won't explain how it is I accrue enough monopoly money to feed myself.

C'est la!

C'est CA.

If you make money, you need to pay taxes. If you do not make money, you take advantage of people. Either way, you're a fraud.

[scirefacias]

"If you make money, you need to pay taxes. If you do not make money, you take advantage of people. Either way, you're a fraud."

Make money? Well, I just took a piece of paper, wrote "this note is legal tender for all debts public and private", signed it, stamped it with the coat of arms of Canada. To whom do I pay these necessary taxes?

Is it taking advantage of people to receive gifts?

As for fraud, ah, those statutes that have become vernacular; to lie to children by teaching them fraud exists is a much larger fraud than any I might perpetrate.

[AuxBatOn]

"If you make money, you need to pay taxes. If you do not make money, you take advantage of people. Either way, you're a fraud."

Make money? Well, I just took a piece of paper, wrote "this note is legal tender for all debts public and private", signed it, stamped it with the coat of arms of Canada. To whom do I pay these necessary taxes?

Is it taking advantage of people to receive gifts?

As for fraud, ah, those statutes that have become vernacular; to lie to children by teaching them fraud exists is a much larger fraud than any I might perpetrate.

Stop playing on words and get real. By make money, you know too well I meant work in exchange of money.

You ARE a fraud. You are the scum of the Earth.

[scootr]

Jeez scirefacias, your name sake is "to cause to be known", and you're not really doing any of that here, just throwing around insults, accusing the rest of us of being mentally incompetent humans not capable of reaching your "level" of enlightment.....
My initial impression of your acting abilities, is that your not very good at playing charades, your clues are supposed to lead us to the answer that was shown to you by the game's host(rob)... you've come up with some posts that don't the freemen in a favourable light....

Further more, I'd like you to expand on you thoughts on how religion fits in with the freeman ideals. I still find it hard to comprehend that something so intolerent as religious beliefs can fit with freeman thinking. Historically, religious authorities were the government, and enforcing a rule of law that was quite violent, and with no room for individual intrepretation. Or am I incorrect in thinking you're part of a mainstream religious group, and you, and some others have started your own following?

[Sidebar]

Wow, 696 posts following this guy's rant! I've been missing out.

[Four1oh]

Wow, 696 posts following this guy's rant! I've been missing out.

Actually, no you haven't.

[tesox2]

I fail to see how Robs plan is unique from our modern society?

"The Society will provide members with a nameable group and also all the basic things that existing de facto governments do such as identification cards, international travel documents and consular support, health care access, banking services, education and housing support, functioning and accessible justice system and an accountable and restrained force to keep the peace. With a goal of claiming and homesteading a valley and therein building a community of families living in unique, environmentally low-impact yet high tech equipped homes this mostly self sustaining community with all the amenities of any modern village we can demonstrate how easy it is to live in peace and abundance."

Where does the money come from for these 'basic things'?

How do you 'curb corporate power' in a society that will rely on corporate entities to support it? Who provides the id cards, the high tech homes, the bank services?

You are a bunch of whacked out morons! Trying to avoid conforming to our brainwashed society by creating your own, still makes you conformed!

[tehmastermonk]

the plan is only "termed" as Robs plan. Rob was no the first to dream it up. That plan is not
a plan of anarchy. to answer how freeman thinkin fits in with religeon, well that depends on what you deem religeous. i can only answer that qquestion on how i understand religous to be.

so from there, its like this....

The world freeman society claims common law jurisdiction. to make a long story short
common law was formed by judges usung other rulings from cases of similar nature, to form
a collective form taht was applicable to the common man. in 1215, pope innocent III and king richard (i think it was richard) decided to draw some lines in the sand. Rome wanted to rule the church world. monarch wanted to rule the natural world. so they both agreed, and wrote the magna charta.(thats the short version).

the magna charta was developed from roman maxims, ecclesiastical law, and the ten commandments.(basicaly). this is where common law presides.

freeman thinking is this : Equality in the eyes of the law, is paramount."For there is no respect of persons before God" meaning weather yo are a bum, a king, a pope, a blue collar, when one stands before the rule of law, the assumption is, all are equal.

This means if a cop, judge, or drunkard comits an assault, they will face the same courts as
the murderers, and face teh same consequenses.

Rob and others (and i think you all realize this too) decalre that, as it is now, equality before the law is not paramount it todays society, and that puts us on the dangerous road to corruption, not only fraud, but murder, theft, kidnapping, and yes, terrorism.

Freeman thinking is that no man can claim such authority ove another only because another entity tells him he can, without the consent of the one being subject to it.Freemen say

"hold on a minute here...there are a few hypocracies taht need to be adressed and towed in check before i can peacefuly agree."

Freemen (responsible ones) claim common law jurisdiction. reason being is because its roots are founded in spirtual principles. Now in teh past, when magna charta was writen up,
there were corruptions in those mens hearts to. slavery was prominent. the form lf law was good, the enforcement was bad. Freemen see the same thing happening with the current "fad"
called statutory law. Not all statutes are bad. for example, speed limits. those are good.
and necessary. But if i go to a park and get a $100 fine for throwing a frisbee for my dog,
that is restrictive, unless my dog harms someone. most statutory law are founded on the assumption that anticipates the worst, thus justifying "preventatinve harm"

none of wich are consistant with Gods law. Biblcaly Law was moses. the ten commandments.
Statutory law was in the hands of the levitical priesthood, and the military might was in joshua
Freemen thinking believes in what the bill of rights says, relating to the rule of law and the supremacy of God. the spiritual force that drives this is the divine law of love. under this law
hang all the written commandments, as well as the moral precepts to live as we aught to live,
freeley.

Freeman thinking is "looking into the perfect law of liberty", being freed from the dead letter of the law,we by nature do the things contained in the law, are a law unto ourselves, our own thoughts defending or accusing, and discerning right from wrong under God.