Apprentice experience

[TwinOtterLover]

Hey everyone,

Ive been looking around in the CAR's but can't seem to find a straight yes or no answer for this. Does it have to be a Canadian registered aircraft to count towards totally time as an apprentice and go to into the logbook for tasks done? I seem to remember in school a teacher saying that it must be Canadian registered but my memory has not been the best in a few years now.

Any thoughts?

[iflyforpie]

I don't believe so. I logged a ton of time on American registered aircraft and it was never questioned or mentioned. Has to be civi though...

[GAC]

I think you have to have at least 6 months of the total experience on Canadian registered aircraft

[mmartin1872]

I have a good question, that I wondered about a while ago but never asked.

In the Required Skills it says that "each task must be subject to a maintenance release, and that the person who signs your log book has to be either an AME or an "equivelant." What about Maintenance on say amateur built, or owner maintenance. These tasks are subject to a maintenance release and the owner is an "equivalent" to an AME on these aircraft because they have the authority to sign a maintenance release.

The way I read it is if say you work on helicopters, and need some fixed wing skills signed off to get your 70/80% whatever it is, could you go and work on these amateur built or owner maintenance aircraft, and have the owner sign your logbook, saying that you completed the required tasks?

The only thing that I see is that "experience" (the amount of time you work) can't be on owner maintenance/amateur built aircraft. But it sounds like "skill" can... Am I missing something.

[bombardierfixer]

Most of my log book entrys were N-reg, if not all. But as above it has to be civil I think.

[ourkid2000]

It does not have to be civil actually because many of my logbook tasks were on Canadian Military airplanes. What has to be civil is the minimum required 6 months time working on civil airplane .

[MCRS]

Back when CARS were still Air Regs they stated that you could do your apprenticeship on foreign reg Aircraft, but you did need to complete 6 months on Canadian Reg. before you could write your exams. (The route I took incidently.) As for the Experimental category, I haven't looked recently but Back at that point as well, they didn't allow that as an option. Unless of course you built the thing yourself then that was considered part of the experience requirement. Not sure about the owner of the Aircraft signing your tasks but I would assume transport will say no as they are only approved for that particular Aircraft type.
Just my understanding anyway. Anyone else?

[revr]

you can use millitary and N-Reg aircraft towards total experience.

(iii) Maintenance of military aircraft, or parts intended for installation on military aircraft, may be counted toward the total and specialty experience requirements, but not toward the civil aviation experience requirement. Maintenance of ultra-light, advanced ultra-light, amateur built, or owner maintained aircraft, does not qualify for any experience credit.

this is from car 566.03.