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c170b53 wrote:Anyone want to comment on the latest (refurbished out of house) 767's added to the fleet ? Best quote of the month from a Capt " I signed the logbook because none of the mechanics in xxx had a license". :rolleyes: At least it keeps us grinning.
I'm curious about this quote, where were those 767's refurbished? Was it in Canada or overseas?
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Well if ac starts hiring again. I'm sure they won't consider all the jazz pilots that are about to get their layoff notices next month. Bizarre. Step up to the plate ACPA
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Squid wrote:Well if ac starts hiring again. I'm sure they won't consider all the jazz pilots that are about to get their layoff notices next month. Bizarre. Step up to the plate ACPA
Huh?
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"Well if ac starts hiring again. I'm sure they won't consider all the jazz pilots that are about to get their layoff notices next month. Bizarre. Step up to the plate ACPA"

What layoff notices? There's no rumours of layoffs at Jazz that I've heard, please inform the audience where you heard this!
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1. There are NO LAYOFFS coming at Jazz. Don't go around crying wolf and upsetting people for nothing.

2. Even if there were layoffs at Jazz, it has nothing to do with the folks at ACPA. Why should big red suddenly have to open the doors and take any recently laid off (most junior) pilots at Jazz.

Give your head a shake.
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Why should big red suddenly have to open the doors and take any recently laid off (most junior) pilots at Jazz.

Give your head a shake.[/quote]



Maybe because AC's regional carriers had to open THEIR doors to laid off AC pilots back in the mid 90's.
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My point is that there are NO LAYOFS coming at Jazz in this upcoming equipment bid. We shouldn't cry wolf and start pointing fingers at ACPA (or anybody) for something they haven't even been confronted with yet.

Let's all get back to the good rumour of AC hiring this fall!
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Ivanhoe,
That deal is history as well as LOU 18. No more preferential hiring from Jazz. Jazz and AC are two separate companies. Hiring will not be guaranteed to anyone , regardless of where you come from, be it Jazz, military, corporate, bush, etc. It worked both ways as Jazz drivers got preferential hiring at AC ahead of anyone else.
Back to the topic I have also heard maybe the fall for hiring up to 100 pilots .
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My guess is, after the Olympics, = Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, and following massive layoffs. Anyone look at the financial numbers in detail lately?
Lets hope it does not happen though :|
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If an equipment bid in the next few months shows a vacancy then and only then will the company start to make arrangements to interview potential candidates for a possible fall course. Have to show a vacancy to get the ball rolling .

WF9F

I'm curious when was the LOU 18 -TRANSITION OF CONNECTOR PILOTS TO THE AIR CANADA PILOTS SYSTEM SENIORITY LIST removed from our ACPA contract ?

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thrust set wrote:If an equipment bid in the next few months shows a surplus then and only then will the company start to make arrangements to interview potential candidates for a possible fall course. Have to show a surplus to get the ball rolling .

WF9F

I'm curious when was the LOU 18 -TRANSITION OF CONNECTOR PILOTS TO THE AIR CANADA PILOTS SYSTEM SENIORITY LIST removed from our ACPA contract ?

TS
I think you meant to say vacancy instead of surplus!
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Funny thing I read my post twice for errors ....oh well, iphones and staying up all night over the atlantic.

Thanks

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P.S Was able to edit it.
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iphones over the Atlantic? Thank God you didn't overfly destination!
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yycflyguy wrote:iphones over the Atlantic? Thank God you didn't overfly destination!
well put :wink:
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yycflyguy wrote:iphones over the Atlantic? Thank God you didn't overfly destination!
GPS?

There's an app for that.
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JAL is not going bust. they are restructuring....

Love how the rumor mill works.....

Their flights out of YVR are full almost every day. I doubt they be getting rid of that flight......They are laying off 15.000 people . In the long run they will get rid of planes, routes etc, but they are FAR from going Bust...

http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201002020411.html
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goaroundthrust wrote:JAL is not going bust. they are restructuring....

Love how the rumor mill works.....

Their flights out of YVR are full almost every day. I doubt they be getting rid of that flight......They are laying off 15.000 people . In the long run they will get rid of planes, routes etc, but they are FAR from going Bust...

http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201002020411.html
No, not going bust but by massively shrinking their capacity a significant void is left in the trans-pacific market that has NA carriers salivating at the idea of stealing some market share.
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yycflyguy, a nice little company that I know of has some A340's for sale; cheap. AC just needs to offer more than what the scrappers are offering for them.

Seriously though, isn't this supposed to be a fantastic time for leasing or otherwise acquiring aircraft? I don't know if 777's, but there should be some other airframes out there that would fit the bill.
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Panama Jack wrote:yycflyguy, a nice little company that I know of has some A340's for sale; cheap. AC just needs to offer more than what the scrappers are offering for them.

Seriously though, isn't this supposed to be a fantastic time for leasing or otherwise acquiring aircraft? I don't know if 777's, but there should be some other airframes out there that would fit the bill.
Hey Jack, I am sensing the possibility of a side job. Between the two of us we should be able to scrape together enough capital to lease something to AC :wink:

As was pointed out, there are some 767s still parked in the desert. Maybe the Gimili Glider can make another grand re-appearance!
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Last summer they kicked all the AFI's and project pilots out onto the line because among other things they needed everybody out flying. I can't see how one year later it hasn't gotten worse. Even with this age 60 thing they have got to hire sooner or later.
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This is my reply to a post under the maintenance forum with regard to Third world maintenance. As this topic/thread is really about employment;
First off, the airline industry has gone third world everywhere and worse. Everyone is operating in an environment where resources are channeled to keep the airline running, no different than the guy driving a clapped out rusty Honda Civic down the highway. The driver knows he needs insurance (minimum), a license, gas and the rest can wait as long as the vehicle gets to the destination. The airlines have divested themselves from tasks associated with maintenance by outsourcing, freeing up capital tied up in facilities, parts, airworthiness oversight, training and personnel. Although it works in the short term there's costs associated with these practices with grounded aircraft, disrupted schedules while aircraft wait for repairs. As this business winds down, airlines have to put more resources into their management structure to acquire parts and maintenance outside of their immediate control. Of course it is cheaper to acquire staff that do not require licensing to oversee these tasks than those with formal education, The government has been more focused on the industries associated with airports and have left the airlines to self govern themselves. The companies that make it their business to pool parts and provide them to the airlines, may not be as responsive to a situation unless its profitable to them. The companies providing on call maintenance provide the basics which are profitable to them but have little resources to provide maintenance outside of Gas bar requirements.
There's a reason why its called the The Greatest Race to the Bottom.
What does this mean? It means Pilots being given questionable advice by their maintenance centres which are focused on schedules. It means mechanics unable to complete tasks because there's no parts or equipment. It means finding a fall guy when things go wrong.
Make sure you're not that guy and enjoy your $250 trip to Hawaii.

To my fellow employees at AC, tell me I'm wrong as some of you may think I have a pessimistic outlook but I think I'm just a camp survivor for now.
Aveos has more layoffs coming.
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Take it outside boys! Back on topic.

Talked to a few guys in the security line the other day..and rumour has it Big red is recruiting for their training department. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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av8tor_assrope wrote:Talked to a few guys in the security line the other day..and rumour has it Big red is recruiting for their training department. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
That is a fact.
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Rockie, how do you know that that is a fact? Are you feeding us a line or are you "in the know"?
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I've heard the rumours of hiring as well. Having said that we all now how quickly things can change.... I can tell you that we are definitely a bit light on EMB F/O's right now.. (blocked to 84 hrs this month) With a few new routes being announced it could mean more flying for the summer..
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