Piaggio Avanti Noise complaints

[rigpiggy]

I worked with several companies that insisted on full rpm in the climb, ie b200 @ 1900 rpm for a climb to FL280. FFS people pull the props back as soon as you can, and keep them there till short final,Unless you have a good reason.

Naples Targets Piaggio Noise

The Piaggio Avanti normally turns heads because of its unconventional configuration but now it's attracting the attention of noise-conscious Naples, Fla., for its unconventional sound. The Naples Airport Authority is working with Avantair, a fractional and charter company that operates the Italian twin turboprop pusher, to minimize the impact of the unique noise it makes. It's not that the Avanti is particularly loud. In fact, according to FAA measurements (PDF — small print, so be ready to use the "zoom" feature in your PDF reader), there are plenty of aircraft that emit more decibels. However, the configuration of the Avanti, according to a Wikipedia entry, results in the wing wake and engine exhaust hitting the props to create a square wave noise. The unscientific description offered by Alan Parker, chairman of the airport authority's technical committee, is that the Avanti is "irritating loud" with a high pitch he likens to fingernails on a chalk board.

Parker told the Naples Daily News the sound made by the Avanti disrupts conversations and regular activities in the neighborhoods near the airport. He stressed that the airport authority isn't trying to ban the aircraft, which make about 20 visits a month to Naples. Avantair Chief Pilot William Allbright said pilots are being advised to invoke manufacturer-suggested noise abatement procedures, including cutting propeller revolutions from the normal 2,000 to 1,800. "We are now going to increase our diligence and make sure that our pilots are using these techniques at Naples," Allbright said. The airport is also updating its FAA-mandated Part 150 noise compatibility data to reflect changes in demographics and neighboring activity to establish flight corridors that have the least negative impact on residents and businesses.

[linecrew]

Parker told the Naples Daily News the sound made by the Avanti disrupts conversations and regular activities in the neighborhoods near the airport.

It is so unfortunate that they will never get back those 30 to 40 seconds of their lives back while an Avanti goes by. What do they do when the neighbour uses their lawnmower?

[Liquid Charlie]

The Vatican owns a bunch of those - maybe the noise is intentional to cover up the squeals ..... my bad -- hope you good RC's don't get too twisted --

[Hot Fuel]

Liquid Charlie...apparently those types of comments are fair game.

[turbo-prop]

Curious what would you climb out at in a B-200?

[rigpiggy]

1700 prop on the 200. The customers comment on the noise reduction.

[reality_check]

20 visits a month and these idiots are complaining?

And why did they buy houses near a bloody airport?

Some people are just too stupid to live...

[Pratt]

Here is a good Facebook group for all of us aviation types:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/gro ... 0024661543

[bezerker]

Naples, Fl. all I can think about is ribs!!!

http://www.michelbobs.com/

[yycflyguy]

Minimum age requirement to live in Naples: 81 - how do the local residents hear anything?

[C-FABH]

How much would it cost to retrofit a P180 with in-flight refueling and have it fly the circuit for 24 hrs a day?