The Pope

NAYA · Post by **NAYA** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:29 am

The news just announced that he has died. I'm not a very religious person but it's sad in a way even though he was so old.

spoiler · Post by **spoiler** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:31 am

Yeah, I am not even remotely religious, but this Pope was a neat man. have done a lot of reading on him, his childhood, his life. Interesting stuff.
sad day.

gig · Post by **gig** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:35 am

Yep, not religious either, but it is a sad day. Guess replacing him with someone younger will only help the cause, I mean he wasn't giving too much of an image in the last months...

NFA · Post by **NFA** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:38 am

man you guys are fast. but it appears he is not dead just yet!

Canus Chinookus · Post by **Canus Chinookus** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:51 am

"Oy think oy'll go for a walk!"

NAYA · Post by **NAYA** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:51 am

I see that the Vatican has not confirmed it yet and that there are conflicting reports in the Italian Media. Man, i wouldn't want to be the major news orginization to jump the gun on that one

I realize I may have on AvCanada though

Cargodog · Post by **Cargodog** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:52 am

When CNN shows the black smoke then it's official.

1st timer · Post by **1st timer** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:01 pm

Skyward and the pope in the same week, there is no god!

Tango01 · Post by **Tango01** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:28 pm

God bless him.

Canus Chinookus · Post by **Canus Chinookus** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:49 pm

false alarm, he's still hanging in there.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:54 pm

Sad day?

Let me get this straight. You feel sorry for a man who's life's work is to campain against the use of contraceptives, (80,000,000 people in Africa with HIV or AIDS) continues to entrench women as second class citizens, and lead an institution that continues to harbour petifiles? (yet another recently settled child molestation law-suit for $80 million US)

Good riddance. Too bad the next one won't be any better.

Arctic Icarus · Post by **Arctic Icarus** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:11 pm

Well what ever your beliefs are, there still is a man who is dying or has passed on. I think some respect should be prudent.

gig · Post by **gig** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:31 pm

Sky: Artic is right. And maybe this religion is a bit conservative on some points and slow moving, but I personnally think that for those who need a religion, this one may be the least intrusive in your life. I mean they don't make you wear silly knives at school, don't ban alcool and premarital sex, don't ask their beleivers to go and knock on every doorstep of their neighbourhood on sunday mornings.

flynbutcher · Post by **flynbutcher** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:58 pm

sky's the limit..... you are going to hell!

Cool Rythms! · Post by **Cool Rythms!** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:02 pm

Yes, I do come from a christian family. No, I did not hear anything about the Pope passing. I'll check the news tonight. If he has passed, may God rest his soul in peace.

shitdisturber · Post by **shitdisturber** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:18 pm

gig wrote: I mean they don't make you wear silly knives at school, don't ban alcool and premarital sex, don't ask their beleivers to go and knock on every doorstep of their neighbourhood on sunday mornings.

Actually, premarital sex is a no no, unless you're an altar boy of course.

peeelot · Post by **peeelot** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:56 pm

No matter what any one thinks A person is very sick someone who wanted to help people. ANot too many people out there like that. All I have to say is thank you for being who you were.

TopperHarley · Post by **TopperHarley** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:04 pm

gig wrote:Sky: Artic is right. And maybe this religion is a bit conservative on some points and slow moving, but I personnally think that for those who need a religion, this one may be the least intrusive in your life. I mean they don't make you wear silly knives at school, don't ban alcool and premarital sex, don't ask their beleivers to go and knock on every doorstep of their neighbourhood on sunday mornings.

The Catholic Church is very much against pre-marital sex and drunkeness (alcohol is not "evil"... it's when you abuse it and get drunk that causes problems).

Pope JPII is a very liberal person when it comes to social issues: he changed the Catholic church's stance on capital punishment and vehemently opposed it... he was very much against both wars in Iraq... he argued very much in favour of giving more support to the 3rd world countries in terms of debt relief and financial aid... etc.

When it comes to religious issues, he is very conservative: he opposes gay marriage... he opposes birth control... he opposes female ordination... etc.

I really do admire, however, how he taught to be forgiving and loving of others, no matter what their religion or background. He opened his doors and befriended many Jews, muslims, etc, something many other Popes dared not do. Also, not only did he forgive the person who shot him and tried to kill him, but he kissed him on the cheek to show him and the world that he holds no grudges.

I do not agree with everything this Pope has stood for, but I think we can learn a lot from him. It appears that he is gracefully accepting his death with much dignity.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:22 pm

***UNWINNABBLLEE-----INTARDNET-----ARGUMENT***

LH · Post by LH » Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:34 pm

I'll give him respect because of what he did for the Polish Underground during WW2 and that made him a decent human being. There's been more people killed, murdered, raped, tortured and lives ruined throughout the history of mankind over various religions than any other cause. I'll therefore not involve myself in the good or bad points of any religion because they all bear blame for the aforementioned throughout history. I trust that they will allow him to pass in peace and dignity as a human being and not allow him to turn into a "vegetable" on tubes. He's lived a very full life....let him go if it's "his time".....and grant him that much respect.

North Shore · Post by **North Shore** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:55 am

1st Timer wrote:

Skyward and the pope in the same week, there is no god!

LOL!! Good one!

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:28 pm

Flynbutcher

You actuallty believe in that crap??(hell) Easter bunny too? Father Xmas?

I should appolgize for the "good riddance" comment, a bit harsh I do agree. However, the sentiment it implies is still the same.

STL

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:06 pm

Well, it's official Pope John Paul II has died about 1/2 hour ago according to the BBC. It truly is the end of an era, a sad day indeed.

TTail · Post by **TTail** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:19 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3305285/

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04 ... index.html

Very sad.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:21 pm

I'll be pouring out a forty tonight in his honour.