LegoMan wrote: You'd be surprised how many bands are desperate to play for free. As the owner I rake in all the cash, while these bands put out all the effort. There are thousands of bands just like pilots all looking for their shot...the winner at the end is the owners of the companies. Best of luck to you all.
You should be very proud of yourself....are you related to Michel Leblanc??
That's business! Quit your whining. Work hard and you get good pay in a few years, for the next forty years. Meanwhile the kids you went to highschool with are just getting out of college taking jobs in retail and front-end customer service, substitute teachers, etc. Doctors won't even get paid for like six years after I got out of flight school and they're shelling out up to 60k a year for the priviledge. It's not that bad of a deal. Some people just want it handed to them I guess.
Or maybe some want to be able to make a living out of it as they entered the field with that in mind. Some want to be paid fairly according to their responsibility and want to be treated with respect.
Are you talking music or flying? Of course everyone wants to be paid fairly and treated with respect. And everyone should be treated that way. And they are. But a band no one knows about and the pilot with the least to offer have fair pay and respect owed that are considerably less than the other bands and pilots. These guys have been doing this about a year now and are still apprenticing.
Their sense of entitlement has to be addressed realistically. This is capitalism. You'll get yours after they get theirs.
LegoMan wrote:"This is capitalism. You'll get yours after they get theirs."
I like the sound of that.
With every post you sound more and more like a real treat of a person. Carma's a bitch, perhaps why you didn't succeed as a pilot. Too bad you feel the need to treat those in the music industry the way you were treated as a pilot.
LegoMan wrote:"This is capitalism. You'll get yours after they get theirs."
I like the sound of that.
With every post you sound more and more like a real treat of a person. Carma's a bitch, perhaps why you didn't succeed as a pilot. Too bad you feel the need to treat those in the music industry the way you were treated as a pilot.
Then you know nothing about me my friend...carry on with your business.
LegoMan wrote:
Then you know nothing about me my friend...carry on with your business.
Perhaps I know more than you think. It's a good thing you weren't successful as a pilot and moved on to another industry. Good luck in your new endeavors!
wow you guys just love pooping on eachother dont you?
I am new to the industry and already i think im sick of it... no jobs, stuck up people, and backstabbers, the list goes on. I guess welcome to the aviation industry!
good thing i got a grant to do my flying otherwise i think it would have been a complete waste of money.
Whatever happened to the "Pilot Shortage"?!?!? You know I began flying 3 years ago and got the infamous speech "there is no better time to be a commercial pilot than now!!". Man was I excited and then 100 hours and I began to see the same old faces around the club and even more showing up each month. 180 hours in I noticed the same faces and more kept piling in( I am talking instructors ofcourse). Well its concluded that the so called "shortage" might never happen with this many guys and may I say with this many guys wanting the job the conditions will NEVER change because we are all easily replaced as most chief pilots would say. But you know they were all in our shoes but soon forget how hard that ladder was to climb.
You gotta love what you do to do it. I will tell you working in todays heat( +30 C) watching planes fly over the jobsite and taking s***t from everyone it sure gets in your head that making $20,000 a year sitting right seat is definately not bad at all. It sucks because I feel like I contribute to the problem of taking what you can get.
I hope this makes a few guys open their minds to why these conditions exist in the industry.
This industry is like no other...it eats its young. The oldies go around telling the newbies they are not good and have nothing to offer companies...what sort of attitude is that? The future of aviation will see us having pilots from training mills from India, flying you and your family around for below poverty costs wages. Right now there are people paying for type ratings and PPCs, there are laid off 757 pilots applying to B1900 jobs. The whole thing is a mess. No regulations whatsoever. I think I even read one post where someone stated they "didn't care to buy a house or make lots of money, they just want to fly"...Oh boy . There will be a shortage... not here though.
It sounds like quitting smoking. Oh...from tomorrow I will not touch even one...And, tomorrow comes, and another cigarette smoked. Why....yhe yhe yhe...there is always a tomorrow! So we keeping flying not matter what, getting shitty pay check, but tomorrow it will be better. Complainig about how many people have their licence in canada so it will be competition and not union. STOP. It is a risky enviroment. Get yourself a deadline. If within ......I have no work....@#$! it! I will change career and no regreats. After all, who said that this is a real job? Compannies knows that.They know that you are desperate and they grab your nuts and squeeze it up to the last drop. And when you`ll compalin...answer: you dont like it? leave! ...next please!
I have said this before but it bares repeating, make the flight test standards a lot tougher for the commercial licence. I don't mean University degrees or some other crap but actual flying skill demonstrated in an airplane. Landing 1/3 down the runway or following a GPS doesn't cut it. Waiting for a stall horn to go off before you realize you are flying slow is pathetic. Stall horns should not be in a training aircraft. A way more hood work, maybe even IFR before granting the commercial would be a start.
Everyone says that would be a such burden on the up and coming comm. pilot but they then complain there is too many pilots
Those of you posting your complaints on here are group B. I hope you all know that group A is working the ramp right now about to get their seat this summer in a 1,000 hr a year flying job.
Dont warry, even the group B will get there. I didnt work in the ramp but I provided other service in the industry. Guess what? I am going to get my job
