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Stay the professionals you are. Don't sink to that level. Good luck with the negotiations. Hope you get everything you deserve.
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Conservatives just got my last vote too. All the best to Jazz pilots. Stay professional.
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Contact information for the Minister of Labour, Lisa Raitt.

Feel free to voice your opinion regarding her comments today about back to work legislation for Jazz ALPA pilots.
Comments that have been made BEFORE a strike has even been called!!


Ottawa
307 Confederation Building
House of Commons
Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6
Tel: (613) 996-7046
Fax: (613) 992-0851
RaittL@parl.gc.ca

Constituency
86 Main Street East
Milton, ON L9T 1N3
Tel: (905) 693-0166
Fax: (905) 693-0704
RaittL1@parl.gc.ca
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Samson wrote:Stay the professionals you are. Don't sink to that level. Good luck with the negotiations. Hope you get everything you deserve.
While I totally agree with you in principle, how in this case are the employees supposed to get anywhere unless they pull the work to rule card? You have a company that doesn't appear to want to negotiate with you fairly, and now the GOV is stepping in to remove any teeth the union has, effectively stripping you of any real action. I don't think playing nice is going to work in this case and as sad as this is - money is what talks, and losing money is what it may take to get a fair and equitable contract(s) for both groups (pilots and FA’s).

As a side note this goes beyond Jazz and has the potential to have far reaching repercussions for our industry as a whole.
Not to mention IMO our government needs a bit of a wake up call; on one hand the MP’s won’t disclose their expense accounts when ordered by the auditor general, on the other Mrs. Raitt wants to rewrite federal law to effectively screw a unionized work force.
Don’t get me started about the taxpayer waste and constitutional breeches in the name of security for the “show and tell” that is the G8/G20. Explain to me why were footing the bill for 1Billion again?
Anyway, I digress…
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As of last night the minister has apparently rescinded her motion for back to work legislation for us..
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Swervin, Where did you find that info? Latest news still says she plans to stop a strike, as of four hours ago.
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[quote="KAG"] While you’re at it, right up every burned out light bulb, scratch and dent. For the RJ guys actually pull out the "bugs per square inch limitation" and request the wings get buffed.
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no wonder we have been seeing a string of snags made by pilots that don't even exist. Sure you guys are "keeping us employed" but when we a troubleshooting an aircraft for 8 hrs and find out that nothing was wrong all along...that just sucks! But hey! I am still getting paid so...thank you!
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swervin wrote:As of last night the minister has apparently rescinded her motion for back to work legislation for us..
Confirmed. CLC was also well briefed on the matter.

Do not let that stop anybody from sending a message to their MP. This type of Orwellian governance from the Federal Conservatives is unacceptable in a free country.
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I hope the email I sent her helped.
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Just sent one myself, with a nice little, next time I'm voting NDP at the bottom.
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Woot! Back in the game.

All the articles with the minister's harsh comments about leaving passengers "stranded" has really demolished public support though. Remember Ms. Raitt is the same person that used taxpayer money to launch a $3 million defamation lawsuit against the volunteers of that Community Air non-profit who dared to speak out against her on their website.
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So what's the deal now? Still more negotiations or are you guys expecting the 72 hour notice soon?
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Kag, I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of pilots at Jazz are not doing any favours for the Company. What everyone is doing is simply being as professional as they can and conduct flight operations with attention to safety, following all procedures as per the COM and AOM.

It is sickening that the Federal Government has mused about using legislation, trumping fair bargaining. This has been the only card available for Jazz Management to play and it is what it has been counting on all along. From what I have heard, and as has been mentioned is the Minister of Labour has had to rescind her pledge made yesterday in Parliament. Regrettably there does not appear to be any official mention of this in the press at this time.
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All the newswires are still reporting Federal intervention, do you have a link for me?
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If you guys are forced back to work you should ALL take a couple "sick" days :D
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Fookin' SMS that Sh!t
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All the newswires are still reporting Federal intervention, do you have a link for me?
None of the newswire are reporting because the House is no longer sitting and I guess it is not newsworthy enough. News that the Minister's rescinding of comment was communicated via ALPA channels. I presume ALPA legal must have had something to do with it along with perhaps other unions... who knows. I would hope at somepoint someone at the MEC level expose the meddlesome nature of the Minister's motion and make the case that their actions have no doubt hindered the process for obtaining a fair TA.
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Here is a link to the parliament of canada site which has minister rats' comments in the house yesterday.
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublication ... nt-3243789
Here is a link to order paper regarding continuation of service.
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublication ... 29&File=11
Pretty tough to negotiate fairly when the government threatens legislation in the media while negotiations are ongoing.
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http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne ... -to-strike
Essentially, this back to work order, even though Ms. Raitt had later recinded her statement, hinders any bargaining ability ALPA may have had.
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So, let me get this straight. There is a strike by Toronto city workers which threatens peoples health (Garbage, filth, disease, etc.) and the Government does squat....... Nuff said. :twisted:
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If the government wants to say its an essential service then have the government employ us, and pay us government wages with government benefits, double standard...
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Any truth to this......

http://www.princerupertnews.com/june18.2.html

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Seems mainline is preparing to operate 319/320 aircraft on Jazz routes in Atlantic Canada.

http://www.iamaw1763.ca/2010/06/jazz-strike/
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Not sure if this has been posted or not, but wasn't gonna go through 10 pages check...


http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne ... -to-strike
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Jean-Pierre wrote:Seems mainline is preparing to operate 319/320 aircraft on Jazz routes in Atlantic Canada.

http://www.iamaw1763.ca/2010/06/jazz-strike/
Air Canada has an extensive contingency plan to cover the lift provided by Jazz. The pilots of Air Canada have indicated their support for our cause and seem to understand that the ALPA cause is the ACPA cause, apart from global domination...

This may well be another opportunity for professional pilots across the country to take a unified stand to regain the respect of their employers, the government and the travelling public.

Sometimes you just have to pay a little more for better quality.

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