Respectfully, the CofPP will not be setting rates of pay. Perhaps they may be able to indirectly influence the rates of pay by controlling the supply of professional pilots through certain measures but they will not be the panacea that some predict.
However, I fully support the efforts of the CofPP to date and look forward to becoming a member.
Good for your friend. Low ball offers will always exist and some will go for them. I turned down a cadet offer from Cathay last month. (I've been on a 'hired hold pool' list for 2 years for a normal pilot position there) Deciding what you think you are worth really is a personal decision, and you won't be able to sell it to everyone else trying to get ahead.
Sadly 27k is pretty standard for the 3rd tier connectors flying 1900s. But not all companies are like this. I started in the high 30's for my first year as a 1900 fo and was in the mid 40's on my second and third year.
Companies do get what they pay for, I would have jumped ship two years ago if they paid what the 3rd tier 1900 companies pay.
Respectfully, the CofPP will not be setting rates of pay. Perhaps they may be able to indirectly influence the rates of pay by controlling the supply of professional pilots through certain measures but they will not be the panacea that some predict.
However, I fully support the efforts of the CofPP to date and look forward to becoming a member.
Agreed. You have to start somewhere. Controlling pilot numbers and controlling minimum wage requirement for certain weight of aircraft. A floor has to be determined.
JohnnyHotRocks wrote:I turned down the AC interview about 4 years ago because the pay is absolutely rediculous....although I am proud of doing it, it seems that they didn't get the point...they still have the same shitty pay
Johnny: The company plays the card that it is up to ACPA to divide the salary "pie" (which is BS) so really, it is your fellow pilots who are sticking it to you with the flat pay foolishness.
I'm kind of curious to know who applies for a job at Air Canada only to turn it down because of the pay. The pay is no secret at AC. 99.9% of people who apply generally know what they are getting into when they apply, pay included. It's not like they hide it and the information is available on the internet and this forum. I'm not judging, I'm just curious as to who/why.
My guess is that when multiple airlines are hiring, a competitive candidate may have a CV in at several different airlines. The AC process takes from 5-16 weeks (or more!) During that time, multiple offers may be received. Some may have the intention of joining but after an offer is made the reality of leaving a good job to suffer for a couple of years may cause some to change their mind. Some families grow accustomed to eating 3 times a day. It is a tough decision. FWIW, I believe there is a strong percentage of junior AC pilots that will refuse to allow these conditions to continue for the next generation.
