Jetsgo's revival

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:34 pm

Just curious... how many of you think Canadians will let MLB pull it off again?

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:26 pm

Sure, why not?

Where do I sign up to buy a PPC?

(Oh, that was irresistable!

)

-istp

flynbutcher · Post by **flynbutcher** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:11 pm

For only 2 months tops. Then they'll be gone for good and probably take a few more suckers along for the ride

Cool Rythms! · Post by **Cool Rythms!** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:32 pm

Pull what off, screwing pilots, or screwing passengers? I give him an "A" for both!!

jumperdumper · Post by **jumperdumper** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:54 pm

Even with his history, it will be good for the aviation community...especially the pilot community....just get rid of the training bond. If you can't afford to train your pilots you can't afford to run an airline.....that will be be the writing on the wall.

grouchy · Post by **grouchy** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:06 am

What input did the chief pilot have in the training bond issue? Any? Did he have to pay? Was he the first guy to agree to it? What if he had said no?

CAPGEN · Post by **CAPGEN** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:41 am

As much as it makes my stomach churn, I think they'll get up again, only because there are likely a lot of desperate guys that need work, and consumers who will only travel by air at that price will come out again, and take thier chances. I think that consumers specifically have short memories when they're offered a deal.

What I'm interested in knowing is how creditors, specifically the displaced passengers from the March shutdown, can still be out of pocket while his company will theoretically be making money this summer.

multiprop · Post by **multiprop** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:46 am

If they ever get off the ground or Leblanc ever gets another airline in the air, the pilots should NEVER PAY A BOND TO GET A JOB FOR AN AIRLINE! We all know what it costs to to get to that point we should not have to subject ourselves to paying for a job!

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:10 am

Sure he will pull it off and he will go bust again. Then we will hear more Canadians whining about how they lost their money, there will be more demands for regulation, airline integrity will slide even more............all because some idiot was stupid enough to but a ticket on Jetsgo.

Chantal · Post by **Chantal** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:51 pm

How can Jetsgo get off the ground again? unless they have planes, like twelve planes would do it and also because mr. Leblanc has said he could maybe even this summer

short bus · Post by **short bus** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:54 pm

Why is it that everything you post doesn't make any sense?

desksgo · Post by **desksgo** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:05 am

Whoa, I'm glad you said it...because we were all thinking that.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:23 am

jumperdumper wrote:Even with his history, it will be good for the aviation community....

Please consider shaking your head? ... just a bit at least?...

His presence... his practices... selling below costs ....causes (caused) ALL other airlines in Canada to suffer. Suffering airlines don't hire!

People begin to believe airline travel should be expected at bus fare prices or below... and as other airlines try to keep their seats filled, they lose all kinds of coin... as they lose money, the really tight ones (thankfully it was JG first - and while being watched by TC) begin to cut corners... that spells uh-oh! Jetsgo, and their passengers were DAMN lucky one of their many "incidents" didn't turn into a full fledged accident!

None of that is good for the aviation community!!!

As soon as they shut down, other Canadian airlines began to recover... Recovery and growth brings hiring. Now that's good for the aviation community.

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:21 am

Jets Go might have a small problem with the planes part. 9 airport authorities from across the country are asking a judge in PQ to grant their wishes to sieze Jets Go aircraft for unpaid services to the tune of 8 million $$$.

195psi · Post by **195psi** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:19 am

TC has rejected JEt'sGO's ammneded m,anuals and procedures, they are now going to court to excercise there legal right to remove there OC. There were a total of 60 violations in 2 1/2 years. It does not look good. Today's paper's have the aieport authorities going to court to seize aircraft due to TC's decision.

Froggy · Post by **Froggy** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:03 pm

Griffon wrote:As soon as they shut down, other Canadian airlines began to recover... Recovery and growth brings hiring. Now that's good for the aviation community.

That's good thinking!

Before JG did there nosedive, Westjet had anounced early retirement of their 19 737-200's this would mean that those crews would have been upgraded to the 737-NG's. WITCH MEANS NO NEW HIRING for quite some time! Westjet just changed that plan to not retire them early and instead order more new planes. Getting 3 additional -600's next year along with the standing order for like 10 other new planes from Boeing.
Canjet is still buying up 737-500's as well.

If you ask me, JG did the Pilots a favour in opening up more room at Great companies flying aircaft that are much newer and better. not to mention maintained properly! At least you can rest assured you'll live through you're work day!

Loosing the training bond money sucks, i know, especially for those with families to feed but it's time to move on and try like hell to get in with a better company!
Good Luck!

aero-singidunum · Post by **aero-singidunum** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:12 am

That guy should be sent to .....#@#$$$$@#@
and let him stay in jail forever.

Cool Rythms! · Post by **Cool Rythms!** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:56 am

If you mean Michel Leblanc, then yes, I totally agree.

quickflight · Post by **quickflight** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:51 pm

No good can come of thisif pilots keep paying more for theirjobs than they actually make. Pilots paying for PPC's and working for free should be banned from the industry

wooden spoon · Post by **wooden spoon** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:04 pm

Boys and girls be nice now!
Griffen by your handle your ex-Military or still.Lets not talk skeletons
as well everybody else here.How about Age of acft....now now westjet are operating acft that were developed in 1967 as well as Canjet and First Air,Air North.and a few others.As long as all our AMC,s are good in your books and not willing to sign out crappy airplanes(I do not know any).what a lame argument.Jetsgo aircraft average age is 10 years. ,Just guessing but we probably have more serial no#1 in Canada on types than anybody.Ive flown a few.I cannot speak for everybody but you people are either uneducated on the truth or as a buddy of mine says"never let the truth get in the way of a good story" I will say this now that the Jetsgo pilots i have flown with Have been the best bunch of people i have worked with always safe,professional,and contrary to popular opinion you could not buy your job at Jetsgo.Even with your training bond you have to know your sheeat.Nor would any of us take an airplane that we did not consider safe.Soo now bring on the hecklers.Ill get a beer Or hang on,ill drag the fridge over.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:13 pm

Sorry Eastern, you got me wrong... I've never been in the military.
I've been an aircraft mechanic for the last 20 years though and among other things, I know most pilots are pretty foggy about what should be "considered safe".
I know people who worked for Jestgo, and some that worked at Royal.
I've seen airplanes that were horrible when only 5 years old. The age of the bird means nothing compared to the quality of the maintenance.

I don't doubt that it's employees were a good bunch of people, but .... that Jetsgo isn't flying is a good thing.
In my humble opinion.

Hope you find work soon, if you haven't already.

195psi · Post by **195psi** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:51 am

I agree 100% with you Griffen. Having done Royal for a while and Jet's Go at the begining I had to laugh when I saw that Capt on TV saying he would not have left the gate if the a/c was not safe. He really had no idea, neither did 90% of the people working there. I thought Royal was shady, JG put them to shame. There were a few friends of mine flying JG and I let them know at least 1 left before it all went to hell.
I have nothing aginst the people at JG, but don't defend an area that you know little about. A lot can be hidden, not reported or signed off and no one is ever the wiser. Unfortunatley when cash is low this happens and not just at JG. Furthermore cash is not always the issue. I've seen laziness,misplaced thoughts of helpfulness and time savings.In the end the only people who really truly know first hand what shape your plane is in are your AME's, MCC and maybe tech records.

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Jetsgo's revival