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Tehran's opinion of Canada

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Want a good New Year's laugh? Check out today's editorial in the Tehran Times:
Canada had rightly earned a status in the international community as a fair and open-minded country, willing to open its doors to all, willing to assist the needy, willing to embrace the downtrodden. It was always viewed as a nation willing to accept those fleeing political, religious and ethnic strife; its fabric enriched by the fact that one-in-three of its people were born elsewhere.

Sadly, this progressive outlook has changed.

Ever since Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his right-wing Conservative government came to power, the veneer of civility has slipped. Politics in Ottawa has become polarized — it is Harper's way or the highway. Independent institutions such as Statistics Canada or the Atomic Energy Control Board have suffered from political interference from the Prime Minister's Office.

Where Canada once was a friend of the Palestinians, the Harper government now embraces Tel Aviv and its politics of colonization. Where open skies were supposed to exist, the government of Canada embraces protectionism. Where companies were independent, they are now subsidized and granted preferential treatment, as is the case with Air Canada.

Where Canada was a nation once dedicated to peacekeeping, it is now engaged in peacemaking, its handling of detainees in Afghanistan a blight on the record of Canada's Department of National Defense and the Armed Forces of Canada. And it has ignored its own court decisions to abandon Omar Khadr in Guantanamo Bay. He was but a boy soldier in Afghanistan, now convicted by a kangaroo court.
These are the guys who hang people in the streets, and they're calling us out for lack of civility? :roll:

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=233279
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That's it - I'm gonna cry myself to sleep, tonight.
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This is outrageous!
I'm canceling my subscription.
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Oh my .... I am so ashamed to be the holder of a Canadian Passport.

To be regarded in such a manner by the government of Iran will cause me no end of anguish.

In fact, I can hardly see the keyboard because tears are welling up in my eyes..... to think, my beloved Canadian reputation built upon the vision of such great Liberal Party of Canada leaders as Jean Chretien, Stephan Dion, and Pierre Trudeau has been sullied.

As a result, my ability to visit Tehran is now compromised.

How can I bear the shame?

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its great that they think of us this way...and more so, I am glad that this is the way we are. Hopefully it will keep a lot of people that enter and become a burdon to our system away. I think a radical overhaul of the immigration and welfare system is in order, we havent gone far enough to keep the shit disturbers and moochers out...question is, who will be the one to do it?
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That has to be the nicest thing they have ever said about one of my countries.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:its great that they think of us this way...and more so, I am glad that this is the way we are. Hopefully it will keep a lot of people that enter and become a burdon to our system away. I think a radical overhaul of the immigration and welfare system is in order, we havent gone far enough to keep the shit disturbers and moochers out...question is, who will be the one to do it?
Agreed! If only there werent so many retarded bleeding hearts out their.. we are a bit TOO socialist...
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Independent institutions such as Statistics Canada or the Atomic Energy Control Board have suffered from political interference from the Prime Minister's Office.
Gee, I wonder why they'd be interested in the Atomic Energy Control Board.
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albertdesalvo wrote:
Independent institutions such as Statistics Canada or the Atomic Energy Control Board have suffered from political interference from the Prime Minister's Office.
Gee, I wonder why they'd be interested in the Atomic Energy Control Board.
Possibly because it's a great example of the political interference committed by the Harper government?
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They are big on nuclear power over there, aren't they? REAL BIG nuclear power.
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yyz monkey wrote:
albertdesalvo wrote:
Independent institutions such as Statistics Canada or the Atomic Energy Control Board have suffered from political interference from the Prime Minister's Office.
Gee, I wonder why they'd be interested in the Atomic Energy Control Board.
Possibly because it's a great example of the political interference committed by the Harper government?

you are right...governments have no business protecting nuclear energy....everyone should have unbated access :roll:
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As soon as India got the bomb,it was just a matter of time before the ancient rivals from Persia would seek a bomb.
Although India may feel the need to defend itself from the aggrassive expansions of one of its neighbours with a historical claim to almost half of India and Afghanistan(Kushana tribe from ancient China ruled most of Afghanistan and India until about the third century AD) ,never mind the small claims of traditional land claims to the Khasmir valley from its neighbours to the north and east.Considering the destruction of the Persian empire came from that direction ,it is only natural that the Iranians (who like to be known as Persians)should want a nuclear deterent to defend themselves from ancient enemies.
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Nuclear weapons + people who run around in sandals = bad news
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Nuclear weapons in the hands of people with shirts as above are frightening as well.

What really spooks me though is North Korea and Kim Jong-il. Everyone speculates over Iran's nuclear ambition and at the same time, there's Kim detonating whatever nuclear device he's managed to cook up. He makes these desperate bids for attention and one day, the egomaniac is going to be very angry that he's not getting the attention he believes he deserves.

He remind me of a toddler having a temper tantrum. And I believe world leaders underestimating his potential for causing the world great harm. After all, when is the last time they had to drag a three-year-old out of the candy aisle? It's not pretty. ;)
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there's Kim detonating whatever nuclear device he's managed to cook up
Yes, but if the US invaded North Korea to get rid of that twit, imagine the screeching and bleating and honking from the overwhelmingly left-wing media, whom I presume would be mortified at losing another good communist country.
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It's a moot point, because such an invasion is unthinkable unless you want to kiss Seoul goodbye.
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Badger Girl ...

There is zero possiblity that the person you reference in the above post would ever be in charge of nuclear weapons on "our side," and the difference between the US and North Korea is that there are voices opposing the viewpoints of those most radical ... as evidenced by the photo ....

In the North Korean case, there is no free and open discourse, no opposing view, no balancing force to tame the voices and actions of the most radical. ... if you express one, you as a journalist would at the least be thrown in prison, at worst ... if you persisted in writing critical stories and distributing them by leaflet while standing on a street corner ... you would just disappear, and an anthropologist would be indentifying you via your dental records.....if your shallow grave was ever found.
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I am aware of the situation in North Korea.
All I'm saying, is that nuclear empowerment in any unstable country concerns me. Iran of course, is included. As is North Korea.
Despite some rather obvious left-wing media paranoia (which is almost exclusively an American mindset) I do not think the media downplays the threat or situation in North Korea. But the media, regardless of their perceived position on the American political spectrum, does take cues from the political climate which is almost entirely unconcerned by North Korea.

Since I am not a liberal, a republican, a communist, a socialist, a Bill O'Reilly fan OR a libertarian, I am self-afforded the rather rare privilege to examine the global situation with some degree of critical thought. And my thoughts are telling me that I wish everyone was watching the North Korea situation a little more closely. That's all. :)
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BadgerGirl wrote:I wish everyone was watching the North Korea situation a little more closely.
+1

Here's one guy who has been watching it very closely. Very frightening, but fascinating.
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Ok, please forgive my ignorance, but can you explain the +1 reference? It's been awhile since I logged time on a web forum, as you can likely tell.

But yes, and you know who else is scarily fascinating? Hugo Chávez.
They both have a similar vibe – emotionally unstable and immature at best.

I would everything far more fascinating and less frightening from the billion-dollar bunker I fantasize about building. ;)
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Actually Badger Girl, your past association and influences of my old friend Charles Adler is coming to the fore.

Hugo Chavez is a Castro wannabe, and Kim Ill is just plain crazy.

Good to see someone here with a level head .. LOL.... and any girl wants her own personal bunker, is all right with me.

The +1 reference is a version of "Me too!"

In Rush Limbaugh terms, it would be a the equivalent of a caller opening the conversation with "Mega-dittos Rush." Its an expression of support.

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+1 means "I agree with you and add my voice in support of your position".
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How'd you know I worked with Adler?

Yes, though I find him far too partisan in his way of thinking, crazy is as crazy does and Kim and Hugo absolutely insane and dangerous. But because they are also a little laughable, I believe they are underestimated.

Time will tell, it always does. :)

The Old Fogducker wrote:Actually Badger Girl, your past association and influences of my old friend Charles Adler is coming to the fore.

Hugo Chavez is a Castro wannabe, and Kim Ill is just plain crazy.

Good to see someone here with a level head .. LOL.... and any girl wants her own personal bunker, is all right with me.

The +1 reference is a version of "Me too!"

In Rush Limbaugh terms, it would be a the equivalent of a caller opening the conversation with "Mega-dittos Rush." Its an expression of support.

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Like you are a combination First Responder and Newspaper Owner-Publisher, I also have a highly varied background of which aviation is merely a facet on the jewel that is my life.

Charles used to be the newsman for my now deceased best friend Ron Able at CKY, and I've been acquainted with him for roughly 25 years.

Partisan or not, you can't argue with his success in the marketplace.....and that's what broadcasting is really all about. The only way Charles would lean left, is because his wallet was full of money and it was in his right hip pocket ... LOL.

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