Accident at Comox B.C.

Go Guns · Post by **Go Guns** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:54 am

My sincere condolences to the families, friends, and co-workers...

rippey · Post by **rippey** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:35 am

A very sad day for aviation in Canada. My thought and prayers go out to all the employees of nav air and the families and friends of the crew. I only know one pilot there, but I have not gotten a reply to a quick email I sent...understandably since I am sure all employees have been deeply affected by this tragedy. Anyways, if someone could please pm me with the crew names...or even initials if you're not comfortable giving details over the internet...it would certainly put me more at ease.

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:19 pm

my condolences out to the friends and family.

JC, excellent job keeping a proper decorum here on this tragic day.

hodriver · Post by **hodriver** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:23 pm

Wherever Transport finds the fault of the accident lies... I think people should make it known that even though it is the pilot who takes ultimate responsibility of what sort of load or what sort of aircraft they are taking off in, it is not only themselves they are protecting but also the company they work for and the industry they work in. Two young guys had to die just for doing what they loved to do. Unfortunately, no one can even say that they were getting paid well either. I don't know what the solution is - whether its government subsidizing fuel or insurance or what but it is always the young pilots in the industry that have to pay the highest price for the growing tarriffs placed on operators. Are Transport Canada regulations really making the skies safer or are they causing organizations to be more creative?

My heart goes out to the families and friends of the pilots.

brownsideup · Post by **brownsideup** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:24 pm

Knew both the guys fairly well. Worked with both of them over at the terminal. Applied to Nav Air at the same time as they did too. Feel very sick to my stomach to know it was them. Both young guys who were just starting their career too. One had just gotten his Captain's. Very Sad day indeed. My heart goes out to the whole Nav Air family.

wanpaku · Post by **wanpaku** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:36 pm

Does anyone know the names of the pilots? I know a guy who works there. Any help would be great.

beentheredonethat! · Post by **beentheredonethat!** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:19 pm

I would like to take a moment to set the record straight .
I can understand and empathize with all those who are grieving
the loss of two young promising lives in this tragedy, I have also lost friends in this business

Yesterday i submitted a post that was inapproriate and ill timed
and I would like to apologize for that.
eep 2 green and just curious took particular offence and I would like to say
I did not mean any disrespect and you apparently have a personal connection with this loss.
I have a professional connection and It angered me BIG TIME that is why I answered in the manner I did, Thats all I'll say about that now until the timing is more receptive to that type on input.

Thanks for the reality check

North Shore · Post by **North Shore** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:20 pm

My condolences (again) to the families involved. I've just had one of the identities told to me. A quick look through my logbook, and his name appears there as my student for about 20 hours...If someone knows about memorial service details, please PM me.

Darkhorse · Post by **Darkhorse** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:10 pm

This is tragic. This hits home to everyone in aviation..

What is more tragic is the companies statement about this incident and the comment on the aviation industry as a whole...What has this industry come to...

Bottomfeeders continue to bottom feed and pilots continue to make $600 a month in a PROFESSION

Think about it

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:19 pm

My condolences to the families and friends.

Dog · Post by **Dog** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:36 pm

I lost a close friend in the February; they still haven't found him. This brought it up all over again.

My thoughts are with the people left behind.

Also for all our familys. I wasn't able to call home yesterday in time to beat the news (I'm flying a twin on North Vancouver Island). My fiance was in tears when I finally called at 10:30 last night. Way to get the scoop news guys! Forget accuracy just get a story out! It makes me sick. I'm sure I'm not the only one here with people who fear the worst when the news beats them to it.

Jonas: Man, pm me. I've been praying it's not you since I heard the news. (I'm the ex otter jockey that taught you how to start the PT-6)

Extra safe guys.

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:01 pm

Condolences to everyone on the Island and in the community. These events always make me look around and appreciate my friends and family who are there for me.

Hopefully you will be able to think about these guys and celebrate their lives with dignity.

zero · Post by **zero** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:37 pm

A sad day once again for the aviation community on the 'big island', one fellow was from Port Alberni. Two accidents in neighboring towns within a few months and the Beaver from C.R. is still missing with four on board. FYI the families are still looking for the floatplane and are asking for volunteer divers to help conduct an underwater search in the last known position off Quadra Island. Friends of mine are helping with the search and I would be also but the flu bug is keeping me topside. Very slow going, hopefully fuel or oil will start coming to the surface so they can be found and give the families some closure. I spent many years working at the base and watching the small twins do their early morning runs, heard the sirens and watched the trucks racing towards the base the morning of and also heard the airport was closed...I feared the worst and couldn't believe it happened again.

"Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth
Done a hundred things you have not dreamed of..."

Blue Side Down · Post by **Blue Side Down** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:55 pm

My sympathies to the families and friends of these aviators.

sluggo · Post by **sluggo** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 8:55 pm

To all those trying to come to terms with this wretched accident:

These two friends of mine were very competent pilots. I strongly believe if there was anything that they could have done at that point, they would still be here. They were bright, infectiously positive and young, undoubtedly with great careers and lives ahead of them. They will be very sorely missed and remembered forever. I am very, very sorry that they are gone.

I would like to express my appreciation for everyone's concern and support with their posts. Just as yourself, I am trying to come to terms with what has happened and can't stop grasping for reasons as to why this accident developed the way it did. Nevertheless I feel it is very important at this point not to post opinions, speculations or other comments that create more frustration than we are already trying to cope with. Everybody's reading this. Please think twice before clicking Submit.

Sulako · Post by **Sulako** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 10:15 pm

My most sincere condolences on the loss of two of our brothers.

Hun IN the SUN · Post by **Hun IN the SUN** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:00 am

To all the NavAir hard working good guys out there tonight, Man I am truly sorry, I knew both pilots that died yesterday, and they are good guys that had all the dreams and hopes as the rest of us. This is the worst and best industry, unfortunatly its a dark day for everyone. But I wanna say to all the Nav Air guys out there, Im really sorry guys. They will be missed.

CFMartin · Post by **CFMartin** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:10 am

I didn't know these guys, I don't know exactly what they went through... I have learned last spring what it was to loose a co-worker in the Beaver crash in Sioux Lookout... We all wish the same thing, live the same dream. I wish the best to all people that were surrounding them, wish my best codoloeances to the people that knew them.

I would wish that noone ever encounters an accident around him in his career. It sure changes everything. Let's all try to make flying a sfer happening in our lives.

NFA · Post by **NFA** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:20 am

A330 · Post by **A330** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:01 am

NFA,

You're post is immature and ill-timed. There's nothing to do except respect those that are gone. Your statements might be true or might not, but it doesn't matter. Two young brave souls who loved what they were doing have passed on. My deepest sympathies to all concerned.

talkinghead · Post by **talkinghead** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:20 am

NFA

GO THIS WAY

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=7457

DriftWood · Post by **DriftWood** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:52 am

John Donne

A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning

As virtuous men pass mildly away,
And whisper to their souls to go,
Whilst some of their sad friends do say
The breath goes now, and some say, No;

So let us melt, and make no noise,
No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move;
'Twere profanation of our joys
To tell the laity our love.

Moving of th' earth brings harms and fears,
Men reckon what it did and meant;
But trepidation of the spheres,
Though greater far, is innocent.

Dull sublunary lovers' love
(Whose soul is sense) cannot admit
Absence, because it doth remove
The thing which elemented it.

But we, by a love so much refined,
That our selves know not what it is,
Inter-assurèd of the mind,
Care less, eyes, lips and hands to miss.

Our two souls therefore, which are one,
Though I must go, endure not yet
A breach, but an expansion,
Like gold to airy thinness beat.

If they be two, they are two so
As stiff twin compasses are two;
Thy soul, the fixed foot, makes no show
To move, but doth, if th' other do.

And though it in the centre sit,
Yet, when the other far doth roam,
It leans, and hearkens after it,
And grows erect, as that comes home.

Such wilt thou be to me, who must,
Like th' other foot, obliquely run;
Thy firmness makes my circle just,
And makes me end where I begun.

Longtimer · Post by **Longtimer** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:01 am

Police identify pilots killed in Comox crash
Wesley Payne, a 25-year-old from Port Alberni, and Jeffrey Smulders, 23, from Vancouver, were the pilots who died in Friday morning's plane crash at Comox Valley airport, police said Saturday

Croissant Wrench · Post by **Croissant Wrench** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:14 am

My sympathies to the the families, friends and company.

I logged a bunch of time at NavAir about 15 years ago, a very close group who care alot for the well being of each other's lives and asspirarions.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:34 am

...does anyone know if either of the two posted in here?... If so, and perhaps it's an idea in any case, maybe a page for fallen aviators would be a nice idea?... Something with names and user-names associated... officially retire that user-name... a bit of a somewhat permanent, somewhat official place to offer respect and remember them.....?

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