Aviation museum Ottawa - Waco!!
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Aviation museum Ottawa - Waco!!
Went for a ride in the Waco today! Had a blast! Anyone else been up with them?
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I once flew a 1933 Waco UIC cabin biplane powered by an R760 Continental (or maybe Lycoming, can't remember). Found it to be a nice flying airplane but very awkward to sit in and fly. Seat/rudder pedal/control column layout was the pits. I knew it was going to be a beast when it groundlooped being pushed out of the hangar. The early model cabin airplanes were that way because the fuselage blanked the rudder in the 3 point attitude. But my first experience was as a passenger in a later model Waco owned by a Regina based crop sprayer and it was a nice airplane. They appeared to cure the control problem.
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I don't have any flying experience with them but want to know more about it.
I have heard that some kind of problem in its control but don't know any update yet.
I have heard that some kind of problem in its control but don't know any update yet.
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Clark's ?oldtimer wrote:I once flew a 1933 Waco UIC cabin biplane powered by an R760 Continental (or maybe Lycoming, can't remember). Found it to be a nice flying airplane but very awkward to sit in and fly. Seat/rudder pedal/control column layout was the pits. I knew it was going to be a beast when it groundlooped being pushed out of the hangar. The early model cabin airplanes were that way because the fuselage blanked the rudder in the 3 point attitude. But my first experience was as a passenger in a later model Waco owned by a Regina based crop sprayer and it was a nice airplane. They appeared to cure the control problem.
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Nothing quite like an open cockpit biplane and a radial eh!AEROMONKEY wrote:Went for a ride in the Waco today! Had a blast! Anyone else been up with them?
For added fun, may I suggest taking the Waco over to Gatineau (he often brings folks over and picks them up later), visit Vintage Wings for an hour or two, then pop into the Gatineau resturant and enjoy the French Canadian pea soup, then hop the Waco back to Rockliffe. Do it on a Saturday and you may get to see some of the warbirds flying too. Highly recommended.
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The airplane flies all day every day and has a near 100% serviceability record, I can assure you that there is no control problem or any other issue with the airplane except maybe the frequent tire changes... 20-odd landings a day will do that though.Brocksby wrote:I don't have any flying experience with them but want to know more about it.
I have heard that some kind of problem in its control but don't know any update yet.
Not sure why people see the need to make comments in public about things they know nothing about but I guess that's a strange POV on this website, isn't it?
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I can attest to the tire changes... I've done some of them. 

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That would have been Leo MaKenna's WACO Cabin..YQC-6 I think. It is now with the Renold's Museum in Wetaskawin.oldtimer wrote:I. But my first experience was as a passenger in a later model Waco owned by a Regina based crop sprayer and it was a nice airplane. They appeared to cure the control problem.
The Museum of Flight in Langley has a beautifully restored and airworthy example
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The Reynolds Alberta Museum in Wetaskiwin only has a Waco YKS-7 (possibly what you're referring to? ), a Waco GXE, and a Waco ATO (new). The UPF-7 that operates the ride program from the museum is operated by the same company as operates from Rockcliffe, namely, Central Aviation. Central has 2 identical airplanes, one in Wetaskiwin, one in Ottawa/Rockcliffe.
Sorry for coming across as a bit of a dick but I'm a bit of a Waco geek and as said before I don't like spreading false info.
Biplanes FTW.
Cheers,
Sorry for coming across as a bit of a dick but I'm a bit of a Waco geek and as said before I don't like spreading false info.
Biplanes FTW.
Cheers,
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Is Greg back in buisness or has someone else started that venture out?
Last time I saw his Waco it was being towed on a trailer....
Last time I saw his Waco it was being towed on a trailer....
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Bones: No problem...it has been over 35 years since I last saw the WACO at Weyburn and yep..it could very well be a YKS-7 that Leo had there/
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Yes, I believe it is Greg.TeePeeCreeper wrote:Is Greg back in buisness or has someone else started that venture out?
Last time I saw his Waco it was being towed on a trailer....
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The operator of the Waco UPF-7 Rides is Central Aviation.
They operate out of the Reynolds Museum in Wetaskiwin, and out of Rockcliffe Field in Ottawa.
They hold a 703 and 704 OC and also operate executive Charters with Navajos, and a Citation 500 as well as the Bi-plane rides.
Here is the link if anyone is interested.
http://www.centralaviation.ca/index.php ... periences/
The Waco has no control issues that I am aware of it isn't a speed demon, and has the glide ratio of a 56 Chev it is a pleasure to fly.
It is Very good in Xwinds and much more forgiving then a 180, or 185.
They operate out of the Reynolds Museum in Wetaskiwin, and out of Rockcliffe Field in Ottawa.
They hold a 703 and 704 OC and also operate executive Charters with Navajos, and a Citation 500 as well as the Bi-plane rides.
Here is the link if anyone is interested.
http://www.centralaviation.ca/index.php ... periences/
The Waco has no control issues that I am aware of it isn't a speed demon, and has the glide ratio of a 56 Chev it is a pleasure to fly.
It is Very good in Xwinds and much more forgiving then a 180, or 185.
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I've not flown a Waco but it sure is great to watch Greg wheel land his in a howling cross wind at CYRO. I doubt its easy .. probably just a wack load of experience.It is Very good in Xwinds and much more forgiving then a 180, or 185.
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Bones: Here's one for you taken at Arlington, WA. I'll post a pic of my friends RNF when I can find it
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Cool!
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I wasn't aware that Greg was now involved in Central Aviation, I'm glad things are working out for him. I remember when he was running Laurentian Aviation out of Hangar One in Ottawa, it was sad when they closed down. The guy is a master at the controls of the Waco and of the Steerman he used to fly.
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Bones: Here's an RNF that my friend flew out of Langley, BC. My wife got a Birthday Flight in it and she had a blast.


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An Ottawa Citizen article about Greg and the Waco from three years ago:KK7 wrote:I wasn't aware that Greg was now involved in Central Aviation, I'm glad things are working out for him. I remember when he was running Laurentian Aviation out of Hangar One in Ottawa, it was sad when they closed down. The guy is a master at the controls of the Waco and of the Steerman he used to fly.
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/new ... bc25f84174
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Bones: Here's another WACO RNF pic to get your mojo going
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Yeah - C'mon ol'timer; This was CF-AAW or C-GAVL... Spill the beans will ya~!?bmc wrote:Clark's ?oldtimer wrote:I once flew a 1933 Waco UIC cabin biplane powered by an R760 Continental (or maybe Lycoming, can't remember). Found it to be a nice flying airplane but very awkward to sit in and fly. Seat/rudder pedal/control column layout was the pits. I knew it was going to be a beast when it groundlooped being pushed out of the hangar.

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Old timer for sure. I forgot about AAW. I met the owner once. Really decent guy. You'd like him. 
In fact, it was over dinner in Inuvik that the owner of AAW pulled out a picture of it. I went on to say that there was one in the Calgary area. He gave me the contact details and that lead to a 22 year long friendship.

In fact, it was over dinner in Inuvik that the owner of AAW pulled out a picture of it. I went on to say that there was one in the Calgary area. He gave me the contact details and that lead to a 22 year long friendship.
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& BTW, They both had the Continental. Sounds like a Single Otter's Mini-Meoldtimer wrote:I once flew a 1933 Waco UIC cabin biplane powered by an R760 Continental (or maybe Lycoming, can't remember)
Here are the 2 birds in question..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33932332@N ... hotostream
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/093642.html
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